Cuntface? Oh well, since you asked so nicely, yes I will give you an additional discount on top of the 10% discount and free shipping already in place just for being so pleasant! Cumbucket.
Hey… these skants are VINTAGE dude. VINTAGE. I HAVE to protect them from stains… Where else can you get a 1999 Gap sweatshirt-made-skants??? WHERE, I ASK YOU???
It’s because the tight waistbands make them flattering and slimming. That’s why fat jealous losers love them, anyway. It’s not just the ladies either; I’m wearing one right now. And nothing else.
That person is full of shit. I bought those exact fabrics and they were expensive. Even IF they were clearance it would have been priced at more than .89 and they don’t clearance Halloween fabric in Sept. As I recall they were about 12.99 a yard (I know they were at least 8.99)and clearance on the Halloween fabrics was just under $4 a yard. Those fabrics were very popular too. They were gone long before Halloween.
I was a sad panda. They didn’t have those fabrics last Halloween. I laid them over bright colored satin for mini top hats and fascinators. They were adorable.
I’ve seen fabric for $.99 on clearance there. It was orange plaid shiny polyester, or radioactive-colored velvet pile – the stuff they couldn’t sell for any more.
That would be really nice! No more arguing over the time you spent, or the money you are asking just to try and please a customer who won’t be satisfied.
Amen! I once had a listing for a Yahoo! button. It made the Yahoo! yodeling sound when you pressed it. I included photos in the listing (yes, more than one).
The first question I got was, “What color is it?”. I answered, “Yellow and Purple, the Yahoo! colors” My correspondence with that buyer went downhill after that (really, how many ways can you say, “it’s [blank], just as in the description”?). I didn’t know about blocking.
The questioner bid and bid until he/she/it won the auction. I cringed when I saw that.
Of course she/he/it gave me mediocre feedback and lambasted me for the shipping charges which were clearly posted in the auction. Of course.
Whenever I sell on ebay I get crap for the shipping price AFTER the person has won the auction. When I buy, I always look at the shipping price and figure it in. But then, I’m not a moron or an asshole. Is it seriously that difficult to look at the shipping price before you bid? I often worry for humanity.
Assholes are universal. They’re one of those things that should bring us all together in a Whoville-Christmas-spirit-like fashion. Because if there’s one thing everyone in the whole world hates having to deal with, it’s assholes.
I agree! I think the styles are cute. I thought about listing some half aprons a while back, but ultimately the for the work I put in… it was tough to price them.
It is a nice apron. But price point for it for me would be thirty bucks. I know how tricky it is to sew that fabric. But then people who know how to sew aren’t the ones buying those aprons.
That’s adorable! And honestly, it looks worth 50$ to me, particularly when you think of other things people play 50$ for. I mean, normally people decide what they’re willing to pay based on the design, skill, work, ingenuity, and not just the materials involved. Otherwise, I doubt that half of the things in malls would ever sell.
If you want to only pay the cost of materials- make it yourself!
I think that is what the person was maybe working towards. They had the fabric, and we’re maybe going to ask if the person did custom orders? But that logic doesn’t work, because a custom order would cost the same if not more.
Oh hay. Thanks for the thumbs down, when I pointed out that the thing was still on sale.
I didn’t so much have a problem with the “customer” asking how much the seller paid for the fabric, or what s/he was working towards, or the details of the sale. It was the threat of a Paypal dispute, bad feedback, and ultimately the “have a nice day, cuntface” passive aggressiveness that kinda finished it for me.
Whatever s/he was working towards, whether s/he thought the apron was overpriced or fairly priced, or whether the seller was right or wrong to not knock off a few bucks seems sort of irrelevant when you read the last message.
I’m lucky that I haven’t run into this sort of person (yet), but I’m not counting it out. Some people have nothing better to do than be this nasty, and seeing that this really does occur makes me nervous.
Did occur to you that someone that nasty is lying about the cost of the fabric too? Halloween fabric isn’t clearanced in September. That is expensive fabric and cost somewhere between $18 and $28 dollars.
I imagine it being either just a fun thing to wear as the hostess of a Halloween party OR a kinky wear-alone costume for a roll playing night. “Hello, darling. I have some freshly baked muffins here. Care for a bite? *wink*”
Yes indeed! I have added the shop to my favourites list. I’m sure the business they’ll get out of Regretsy publicity will wash away the hurtful words of the cheap weirdo.
Aw dammit! I love this. I need a new apron at work – I use it when I do fittings for theatre so it needs decent pockets. Maybe another one will show up?? PRETTY PLEASE??
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t sold when I looked it up 20 minutes ago. Now I wonder who submitted that conversation … the seller, or the prospective buyer?
The nasty ones (like when we laugh at a zany item, and they get butthurt rather than noticing the hundreds of potential customers whose attention they have) sometimes write Regretsy a sour letter, and they inevitably claim we only hang out here out of envy that we can’t make lovely antiqued clothespegs ourselves or whatever, like we’re tearing people down to feel better about how talentless, dateless, broke, overweight, ugly, etc etc we are. (yes yes, I know- you come here for a giggle & the occasional warm-fuzzy feeling… I’m just telling you what the angry sellers say about us, not at all claiming it’s true) So we began calling each other and ourselves Fat Jealous Losers. It’s especially meaningful when we’ve contributed tons of amazing handcrafted items for a charity auction or suchlike, where it is clear we have no reason to be jealous, and are anything but losers, and are actually wonderful people… then Helen tells us we’re such FJLs ironically. Now you noobs know!
Yes, in one of the most extreme fits of butthurt someone created a Facebook group called RegretsyisforfatuglyJealouslosers. Somewhere along the line the “ugly” got dropped out, not sure why.
It’s a fair price. Truth is that I think they are too nice to splatter food all over. A lot of those look like they’d make nice dresses (if they had backs). She should branch out into dress making. I’d definitely buy a dress from her if they were anything like those aprons.
I can only imagine how charming the Hostess would be at her Halloween party. New apron, that she squeezed every last nickel out of, and a brand new attitude.
I’m not touching the punch.
My sister delivered packages in Tahoe. Once during a freakin’ blizzard this bitch calls the office complaining that her caviar wasn’t being delivered for her New Years Eve party. If the delivery van can’t get up that tiny little winding road your guests aren’t either, dumbass.
I don’t know, I work in a damn book store and I’ve seen much worse than this. You would believe the number of things that are without a doubt my fault that I didn’t even know about. It’s a damn good thing my store is on ground level and away from a busy road…
Damnit. Wouldn’t, you wouldn’t believe. I couldn’t even type this without a mistake. This job has fucked me up you guys. I’ll be in this corner, crying into my sewing machine.
I worked in pet stores for 20 years and have seen crazy and stupid inside and out. When people tried to put blame on me or get nasty, I’d give it right back to them. It wasn’t beneath me to call a customer a fucking asshole. If I lost a customer, there were more to take their place.
I recently witnessed a man yelling at a bookstore manager because they didn’t have a copy of a current NYT best seller. The fact that it came out several weeks ago and only just sold out before he got his lazy ass in to buy it was lost on him. I feel sorry for his elementary-school age daughter who had to watch her daddy being a major douchebag.
It’s 2012. If you’re an adult and don’t know that you can get just about any book from Amazon by tomorrow, you don’t deserve to read. NO LITERATURE FOR YOU, ASSMUNCH!
Funny but it seems I always wind up here with you
Nice to know somebody loves me
Funny but it seems that it’s the only thing to do
Run and find the one who loves me
What I feel has come and gone before
No need to talk it out
We know what it’s all about
Nothing to do but frown
Rainy days and Mondays always get me down
I had a ‘working at Joann Fabrics’ flashback. these people try this in the damn store. “Why is this fabric full price? It was on sale last month!”
90% of all the customers were amazing, and i super-loved working there. I did actually get into a couple of shouting matches with a few of the other percentile. Once over foam and once over an order for curtain fabric. They were lucky to not be buying knitting needles at the time.
Wish I’d been to yours. The last time I went to a fabric store it was a Hancock. There were two customers and three employees. I couldn’t get anyone to answer my question about whether they had a specific thing I needed and couldn’t find. They kept charging around the store after the sole other customer, a lady with a shopping cart full of quilting supplies, instead.
Yeah, I worked at Hobby Lobby in the Art Supplies department (which somehow also included the models, kids science kits and fabric paints and accessories) for about 6 months. It was 5 months and 3 weeks too long.
When I’d had the third person that day yelling at me because I wasn’t quite sure where the “sequence” were at the same time that someone else was calling me a “retarded, mongoloid, illiterate, backwoods hick” because I hadn’t the foggiest clue what she was talking about when she asked for “the van golf paints” (took me only once of saying “sorry? Didn’t catch that.” to figure out that she meant the Van Gogh brand paints) I decided enough was enough and left.
Haven’t regretted it since. Seriously. I thought I caught abuse waiting tables. I think I’d rather work 2 waitressing jobs than go back to another retail job.
Buyer, you’re an big ass, no class, think your threats will get you your way someday, but there’s a weapon against your lack of good sense: a screenshot to prove you’re too rude and dense…
WE WISH WE COULD BLOCK YOU
It’s just a fucking apron. What the hell? Why talk a price down? Do you NEED that fucking apron so badly that you’ll call someone a cunt face over it? Maybe someone should strangle you with the apron strings? You know, to gain some clarity?
I just needed to pop by an say I’m really happy you don’t have any of your bags available for purchase online because I need another bag like I need another hole in my head and I’m a sucker for hand printing.
I have absolutely no use for aprons, but I almost want to buy one because the seller remained so calm in the face of such entitlement. Kudos to you, seller!
That apron is freaking adorable. Maybe not worth $50, but the seller may have paid the original price of like $13/yard, not 99 cents a yard on clearance. Plus you pay for bias tape and thread, and sewing time…I think it’s fantastic, and if I didn’t sew myself I would totally want to buy one. The problem with buyers is that they don’t have the skills to make the items they buy, so they only see the value of materials, and don’t value time. I calculate prices based on material costs and a hourly rate for my time.
Not to flog the whole handmade argument…but I think it’s totally worth the price. I am totally lazy and horrible at sewing, and when I have the scratch I don’t mind paying someone else properly for doing what I can’t.
$50 is less than what I’ve paid for crappy, mass-produced components for my kid’s Halloween costume. For something that won’t be outgrown, and that’s well-made? YOU SEW, GIRL.
As others have said, the reason people buy handmade is because of the quality, originality, and cleverness of someone’s design.
I’d wear this and feel terribly chic when hosting a party. And my husband would be dreaming of bending me over in it all night long!
It’s actually not that bad a price. I’ve drooled over a lot of aprons on etsy and her prices are pretty comprable. This one is probably more because it looks like there’s 2 layers of fabric, and that can be a bitch to sew.
It may not be worth $50 to you, but in that situation a logical person would just not buy the freaking apron… Instead of threatening buyer’s fraud and closing their angry letter with a cuntface tag.
Maybe we’re in the age of self righteous entitlement, but it seems weird to get as upset as they did over an item that they want but don’t want to pay for…
Only because of the weak dollar. The exchange rate favors those using a stable currency. It’ll be very very expensive in drachmas, which don’t seem that far off.
I know right- these aprons are adorable. I’m looking through her other aprons, and if I had the money around I would be custom ordering as fast as I saw a listing for it. I don’t think $50 is too much for a double layered apron, but even if I did I wouldn’t jump on the poor seller for it. If it costs too much for your wallet, once the buyer stays firm on the price just move on.
There’s also nothing wrong with charging upto what the market will bear, either. If your time and materials come out with a price of $40, but people are willing to pay $50, then it’s okay to charge $50. Etsy may be about handmade and vintage, but it’s still business. If your prices are higher than people are willing to pay, they just won’t buy it.
I’ve been having this same problem with a customer of my own. He keeps asking me to lower the price on some shoes. When I said no he sent me a story about how he deserves them for cheaper because he is “a broke college student”, which was funny because so am I. I’ve gotten about six messages that all just say, “So are you ready to come down on the price now?” in the last two weeks after I declined the second time. I wanted to ask in the Etsy forums if there is any way to block someone but that would be “calling out” >.> So, if I’m reading these comments correctly, there is no blocking some one on Etsy? I wrote Etsy support but got no answer.
I wanted to block him because I’m kind of afraid of him buying them, or something else, and leaving negative feedback because he might be sore that I wouldn’t discount them. I told him when I planned on putting them on sale but he still messages me =/ It isn’t anything verbally abusive or threatening but it is pretty annoying.
I’d would buy those for my husband as they would look super sweet with his Victorian smoking suit. (Yes that is a real thing LOL). Unfortunately, not his size.
Why? That only reenforces that if you be a totally annoying pricktard long enough, people will give you what you want. If only some parents would learn this lesson we wouldn’t have so many entitled speshul snowflakes running around.
Omg, those are both horrific and fantastic at the same time. I wish I had an extra $45 to help a FJL out. I also wish that horrific elephant sweater was a medium/large, because it’s so hideously awesome
I’m trying to figure out what a broke college student would want those awesomely hideous shoes for. When I was in college, all I cared about was that the soles didn’t fall out of my chucks.
I think by broke college student he meant cheap ass rich college student. At least I find as a semi-broke college student the two get mixed up quite alot.
It just occurred to me why the Hellephant looks so familiar. Somewhere in storage, I have a small (4″ tall, maybe?) toy rabbit made out of the same material. Same color and everything. I’ll be spending most of the week clearing boxes out of my garage; hopefully I can find it.
I recommend tripling the price. Just to spite him. Then you know he won’t buy them. After a while, he’ll give up, you put them on “sale”, and sell them. Of course, he may be a maniac shoe fanatic who will watch forever…I’d still raise the price just to spite him, but that’s me.
And you know that person is the same type who (if you DID give him a discount for being “a broke college student”) would turn around and immediately deny someone asking the same favor for the same reasons. Narcissism runs especially rampant online.
I’ve checked, but unfortunately Etsy doesn’t have a “block buyer” feature.
It irks me because I am a broke college student. But I don’t try to use any financial misfortune I may be having as a reason that someone else isn’t allowed to profit from their hard work. I don’t believe my financial limitations should be the burden of another hard working person. I would be more sympathetic to him if I were selling something vital or necessary to life, but I doubt he needs purple velvet loafers that damn bad. Some times, especially in college, you have to learn to live without all your wants and focus on your needs.
Thanks for telling me about Etsy’s policy =D They make it hard to get a straight answer. Hopefully enough people will want it that they create the feature like they did with coupon codes.
“To block a buyer, please send them an Etsy Conversation. Explain to them in an appropriate way that you cannot offer them your services. If they continue to buy from you, Etsy may consider this harassment, and may suspend the account. Please contact us here if this happens. Blocking buyers and refusing service should only be considered a last resort, and only in very extreme circumstances.”
That many messages could constitute harassment. Tell the buyer that you cannot sell to him and that if he sends you any more messages, you will report him to Etsy. Then if he buys, refund the payment and report it to Etsy if he negs you.
Honestly, AutumnMarie, I’d just stop responding to the guy. My final message to him would be something like, “I’m sorry, but I just don’t feel comfortable lowering the price any further. If you decide you want to purchase them at the current price, I will be happy to accommodate you.
Thank you so much for you interest in my shop, best of luck in your studies!
Blessings,
AM”
You’ve covered your arse, been cordial and nonconfrontational, AND used nanners’ punctuation rules to call the guy a cuntface without him even knowing it. And Etsy doesn’t have to take a single moment from their Starbucks break to deal with it, because they’re not going to anyway. Ignore any future incoming messages from him.
So now asking advice about how to deal with confrontational customers = calling people out? FFS. Again I’m reminded why I don’t bother with the forums. Useless.
I stopped responding to him after the third message. He asked once and I declined. Then he gave me the broke college student story and I declined again and told him when I planned on putting them on sale. Then the, “So are you going to lower the price yet?” messages came in. The first one I was polite and told him no, not until the sale starts. After that I just ignore them.
Yeah, when I went to post in the forums and saw the definition of calling out it said that you cannot discuss individual transactions or conversations (which this is). I was like well hell, what kind you discuss then? Only the peachy creamy dreamy things.
I think you can talk about it IF it’s hypothetical and you’re not copying and pasting any conversations or identifying anyone. It calls for caution, but it can be done.
So I think you could ask a general question about how other sellers deal with repeated requests for discounts.
Well…I guess you could anonymize it and say a person is harassing you about dropping your prices, and how do you deal with it. If you don’t mention a specific user it can’t really be calling out, can it?
I really do appreciate your help. It’s amazing. You get so much more help and advice from FJL’s on customer relations, proper manners and etiquette then you do from Etsy themselves.
but I don’t know how much the international shipping will cost? when i saw it was made in Yugoslavia, i immediately hated my parent’s for not buying it for me when I was a kid.
Thanks! I did start screen capturing the conversations. I just wish their support team would have emailed me back. It feels like yelling in the dark when you need their help.
If he convo’s me again I will tell him specifically that I don’t feel I could satisfy him as a customer and I don’t think we should do business together. I will also ask him to stop contacting me and if it continues warn him that I will report him to Etsy. That should cover my butt and if needs be it could serve as the basis for blocking him, if it comes to that.
I was thinking “HA HA HA I am going to buy these” so I found out my daughter’s boyfriend’s shoe size and then went through the whole mental gymnastics of “OMG–do I spend $46 on what is essentially a joke and just to save Autumn Marie from evil broke college student? Argh. That’s a lot for a joke! But what the hell. . . ”
But then I looked at the shipping cost–Argh–have to go through more mental gymnastics to justify that–which I couldn’t quote pull off.
So here is my suggestion–put the shipping charges in with the shoe cost and ditch the shipping cost. If I had ORIGINALLY gone through the $65 joke gymnastics I might have managed it, but to go through it twice made me too cautious.
Does that make sense? I was trying to express why a potential customer might not choose to buy them. I do LOVE them–they are hilariously velvet–but couldn’t quite justify the expense once I saw the shipping cost.
GrumpyOtter, it does make sense, and this advice is something I’ve encountered in my own transactions. There’s only one problem with it, as it was recently pointed out to me: Etsy takes a cut of the final price but doesn’t take a percentage of the shipping cost. So if she adds the shipping to the price of the shoes, she’s actually giving a larger percentage to Etsy. She loses out if she does it that way.
I understand your way of thinking, because I was considering doing that to my shop too–lowering shipping and tacking on a bit to the price of the shop items, because right now it costs a bloody arm and a leg to ship from the UK to the US (at least $10 for anything containing sterling/14K), and I didn’t think people would purchase something with such high shipping fees. But I’d lose even more to Etsy’s percentages if I did that.
It’s something I hadn’t considered until someone pointed it out to me. It’s kind of a no-win situation for some items where shipping is costly.
I’m glad you mentioned that because I had never considered that aspect of it. Shipping has become so expensive since I first started selling online years ago. It’s been embarrassing to give people international shipping quotes. The first time I had to calculate shipping to Australia for an Etsy buyer I thought it was a mistake. The shipping cost way more than the shoes themselves! It more than doubled the price =/
No, I totally get where you are coming from. I based the shipping price on the USPS.com’s shipping calculator. I usually find that their quote is high. It’ll quote one rate but when I go to the USPS to ship the item with a clerk it is always lower than the online quote, some times by several dollars. That’s why I always refund shipping charge overages. I hate it when you pay $20 for shipping and it arrives crammed in a Cheez It’s box with a $3 stamp on it =/
I appreciate all the feedback I can get. I’ve sold online in the past but I’ve only had my Etsy shop open for about a month now. Seeing my shop through the buyers point of view is the best advice I can get as a seller.
Definitely don’t feel like you should buy these to save me from this guy! You are really sweet for even considering doing that but I’m sure I’ll survive his repetitive messages =D
Nothing used to irritate me more when I was in college than the “I’m a broke college kid” line. Everyone has, had, or will have a financial issue at some time in their life and college really isn’t garnering much sympathy. I actually paid for college and I never once let that drivel spew from my mouth. It was a choice to go and I knew that one day I’d it would pay off (yeah OK I’m still waiting for the pay off).
I found it interesting that it always seemed to come from the kids who weren’t paying who liked to use that line the most. I’m NOT knocking them for getting a ride, that’s an amazing thing that their parents did for them and I plan to pay my kid’s way if I can. But for crying out loud, if you can’t be grateful at least keep your hole shut.
I hear the “broke college kid” crap from the people around here. It’s a community college. They probably live at home. And the parking garage is always full of Lexuses, Mercedes, and BMWs so STFU.
I’m actually a bit poorer now that I’m out of college, because I have to repay my student loans. Back in college, I would have bought those shoes in a snap.
I was this way as well. My folks couldn’t help me with school, I couldn’t get one parent’s tax information so I didn’t qualify for financial aid and even though I applied for scholarships until I was sick, I never got one (being incredibly average in ever academic way tends to do that). So I worked for minimum wage or just above full time, while going to school and living on my own.
I can remember surviving on one pack of ramen a day because that’s what I could afford. I still never tried to haggle or gain sympathy by pulling the “starving college student” line.
It seemed like the ones who did use the starving student lines on a regular basis were the ones with a free ride and had mommy & daddy paying for their car, their books, their food their dorm/apt and got a substantial weekly or monthly allowance.
They were also the ones dirt broke 2 years out of school because mommy &daddy got sick of paying and cut them off and they never learned to spend wisely.
I’ve seen men get their heads pulled off over skull aprons. This is some serious stuff right here. I bet that person froths at the mouth whenever they’re near a Dollar General.
I am so glad that my etsy shop is just a source of accasional mad money rather than my primary source of income…this way I have the freedom to tell pain in the ass douchebags that I’d rather not have as customers to fuck right off! I’ve had a few convo me trying to get out of paying for shipping, or wanting a lower price, or not being able to understand that actual handcrafters don’t have a stockroom full of items in various sizes…and I always very politely try to explain why they can’t have what they want. For the most part they have been pleasanlty accepting of reality, but occasionally they are completely nuts and I am happy to tell them to shop elsewhere!
I usually just say I am not running any sales at this time and then thank them for their interest. Usually the ones asking for a discount tend to be more trouble than they are worth.
People ask me to make my Rapunzel costume for about half the price (which is the cost of materials) all the time. And then one person asked me to tell them the patterns that I used so they could just make it themselves. If you can’t figure it out, what I tell you won’t be much help since I modify everything a bunch.
I’m not sure I’m going to re-list it.
I would get stuff like this all the time back in my ebay days. Someone demanding the price be lowered, failing that they demand you must turn over your patterns to them so they can make it themselves. I would also have people get pissed at me when I wouldn’t tell them who my suppliers were (for the non hand made stuff). You work hard and pour countless hours into making a business and people don’t understand that you aren’t willing to fork over your vital business information to your competition. The sense of entitlement is mind boggling.
Yep, that bloody entitlement and the nastiness that comes with it. Asking you to lower the price to HALF because they don’t know understand how much work goes into something is obnoxious. Demanding that you lower the price because they don’t care…well, fuckabuncha that.
I had a guy at a craft fair pick up one of my handmade mosaic mirrors, look at me with one cocked brow, and say, “$18? Oh come on. We both know it isn’t worth that much.”
I was young and green at the time, and O how I wished I had taken that thing out of his hands and said, “you’re right, it isn’t. Now it’s worth $118. I take Visa and Mastercard.” But I didn’t, and after a long, humiliating argument, he “relented” and paid all of $18 for a stained glass mosaic mirror, which by all rights (I was told) should have sold for at least $50. But it was a lesson, and now if the same thing happened I’d smash it over his head with a hearty “oh damn, there goes my sale!” without a second thought.
It is so nasty when they try to belittle your hard work so you give them a discount. You catch more flies with honey. Compliment me and I’ll probably give you a coupon or a friend break, insult me and I just won’t want to deal with you.
In some instances if they had spent the time working instead of sending countless emails or arguing with someone, they could have afforded the difference they’re asking for.
Yep. At the same exact craft fair where Mr. Mosaic Mirror gave me his schtick, I encountered a couple who REALLY wanted to buy a set of my painted wine glasses. They spent ten minutes rummaging through their wallets and bags trying to scrape up the $38 I was asking. They came up a tenner short and asked me if I took credit cards (I didn’t). So I gave them the glasses for $28. I’d rather see them go for less to people who appreciated them and were willing to pay what I thought was a fair price, than to someone trying to catch a deal by convincing me my work was shite.
I definitely agree with you that seeing your shop through the buyers’ eyes is important. And I also think it would make a huge difference if buyers could take a moment to look at things from the sellers’ point of view.
I think its–unfortunately–what passes for a haggling culture in our society these days. Other cultures and traditions have whole rituals about what is appropriate for haggling. We dont really have that shared culture anymore, so people who want to haggle fall back on the lowest common behavioral denominators: putting someone on the defensive (which helps you dominate any conversation, not just business transactions. its instinctive.)
Ive seen it when I post some of the sublet rooms in my house for craigslist, people email to bitch that the price is too high for what theyre getting (said without even seeing the place) and im an idiot for posting it for that.
I dont mind, though, since its an easy way for me to see who would NOT be a great roommate.
Exactly! My mom owns an apartment building and I do the rental work for her. My response to Craig’s List people like that is, “Well, we live in a market where over 52% of properties are rentals. I’m sure you’ll have no problem finding a suitable place to rent in your price range. Best of luck!” It just indicates someone who wouldn’t be happy in the building anyway.
When people pull bullshit lines like that (and previously mentioned), it’s because they actually do want that item, they just don’t want to pay that much for it and think they can weasel out of it. Good for you for standing firm on that $18.
I’ve always liked the ones who say, “Pff, I could totally make that for way less.” My reply is “Then go ahead!”
At a craft fair I went to when I was in middle school I was having a bit of sticker shock over the prices there and was sure I could make most of the things I wanted that I saw. (I’ve been a crafter since I could talk, AND this was at the height of the fabric painted sweatshirt days)
On one booth there was one of those little handmade wood, county-type signs that said “I know you can make it. But WILL you?” prominently placed. I used the money I’d saved up for the show to buy a pretty lamp from the lady that I could have made myself. And I walked away with a life long lesson about handcrafted items, selling them, and presumptuous customers that has served me well as both a buyer and a seller through my life.
I got so sick of hearing things like that about my buttons that I just started telling people to go buy buttons at joannes that have been mass produced by a machine that doesn’t need to eat or pay bills. I, however, would like to be paid a living wage by the standards of this country, and if you want the OOAK item, then you get to pay the OOAK price. /rant
Well, I don’t know if it’s sketchy, but my Etsy shop link is in my username (I can’t seem to figure out how to change the link to my WePay shop URL). But please do come by and have a look! Just to let you know, though, I have no mosaic mirrors in there unfortunately–I can’t recoup the amount of labour I do on those or my stained glass panels to make them worth my while to list on Etsy. I do still sell them at craft fairs though.
(But haven’t you heard, if you want one you can buy the same exact thing at WalMart for a buck!)
My friend makes beads at his factory. I get asked many times by people if they can buy wholesale from him — instead of buying them from me — but then they just say “oh, I just wanted a strand or two.” Even after I explain that you can get them from me cheaper, after you factor in shipping from him IF he was willing to sell single strands, they get all pissy over his minimum order quantity.
I can do you one better (worse) – I once had someone ask me if I’d meet up with her in person and walk her through making my top selling piece step by step, because she wanted one but couldn’t afford it. How in blazes do you think that’s going to cost less?!?
Wow. I did have someone purchase a bracelet from me at a fair, and while she was handing me the cash, say with a smirk, “I’m buying it so I can copy the design and make five of them for my kids!” I thought that was pretty obnoxious (although I’d kill to have had that sign that says “…but WILL you?” to have shoved down her throat). I didn’t even know how to respond to her except to shake my head and laugh, and she walked away angry at me for laughing at her. I figured it couldn’t get worse than that.
So I’m assuming you took her out to dinner, gave her free patterns and instructions, showed her how to implement the necessary tools and components, walked her through the process from start to finish, and then offered to buy from her at full retail price? That would have been the right thing to do, after all. Otherwise you’re just greedy and talentless with an overblown ego.
“she wanted one but couldn’t afford it. How in blazes do you think that’s going to cost less?!?”
Oh, of course it would cost less. For her. Because she wouldn’t have had to pay for anything. What, you weren’t actually thinking of charging her to do any of that, were you? What kind of person ARE you?
I tried asking Intel to give me all the design specifications for one of their processors so I could just make it myself once. They just muttered something about “competitor sensitive information” and “what the fuck does he think we are? A charity?”. I must say, I found their attitudes unhelpful at best.
Hey! I have that fabric. I have no idea what I paid for it, either. I also have it in 2 other colors besides that. And no, I’m not selling it. I still haven’t decided what I’m making out of it yet and it’s only been 6 years.
Also, the answer to “how much fabric is in that?” in a convo like that is 259 yards.
There’s a movie called ‘Welcome to Whoop Whoop’ which makes fun of that very thing and I am ruined forever because of it. I am SO GLAD someone else posted about it. ^_^
I also think 50 bucks is totally reasonable for someone who is actually sitting at their sewing machine making stuff like this. I’m at the point where I won’t even turn that bitch on for less than 25 bucks, unless I’m making something for myself or a gift for someone.
BadassLactatingHoneyBadger
June 4, 2012 at 10:38 am
Lawdy, the shit people talk behind the anonymity of a screen name. Funny how some people are more likely to check themselves when you have them within throat punching range.
Hi fellow mammal. You be one really cute badger. How about you slide over to my pond and I’ll teach you about how the furry creatures REALLY roll?
Oh, sorry. The anonymity of my screen name made me behave badly. I’m so sorry. But since you are a honey badger, I am sure you don’t give a shit. Or if you do, you’ll be over it soon.
I’m just guessing, as I either missed the info or it’s not on here, that maybe the prospective buyer thought they were going to be clever and try and get “some friends” from here to help their vendetta. Or maybe the seller submitted this to show the crap she has to deal with from time to time. Either way, justice prevailing in large favor for the seller. DrapesofWrath FTW!
Haha, I actually just posted it on the forums to share, and HK picked it up from there I think. Although now, I can’t find the thread, it may have been removed to protect the twatwaffles identity since it wasn’t blurred out in the original screenshots. Justice has prevailed indeed!
There should a Beware These Buyers list. But then there would also need to be a Block Buyer button. Which means Etsy would need to give a care and THAT would mean they’d need to put down their mustache sticks and Earl Grey Area tea. And we all know by now it is NEVER going to happen.
Indeed why should a person threatening blackmail/extortion/any number of bad behaviors be called out? Too icky for Etsyland.
I know right? When I reported her to etsy when this happened originally all they said was to not contact each other any further. Since she had only threatened to leave fraudulent feedback they couldn’t be budged to actually do anything.
Whoa, 66 thumbs down – that thar is a lot of hate. Before the “cuntface,” it seemed like the seller was doing some weird stuff, too – perhaps overcharging, perhaps being shady with the pricing, etc. – and I just wasn’t sure which party had called down the wrath of Regretsy.
1) Sellers of handmade goods have the right to charge whatever they like for their work. There’s nothing “weird” about asking for money for handmade work. Whether or not buyers think sellers are overcharging or choose to pay the asking price is up to them. That’s called free will.
2) She was doing nothing shady with the pricing. She was completely forthcoming about it, and fair to boot. There was a 10% sale on AND a coupon, and the buyer was still bitching. And bitching. And still bitching. Again, the buyer had a choice to not purchase the item if s/he thought it wasn’t worth the price (see #1).
3) Even if the seller were being remotely “shady” about pricing, the buyer’s threat to file a false Paypal claim and have sockpuppet buyers leave bad feedback on spite crosses so many lines I quite honestly can’t see how to miss the point here.
4) Thumbs down does not equal hate. It means people disagree with you. Good grief.
I’m still trying to figure out why exactly the buyer is angry. She asked if they could knock the price off an on-sale item. No, it’s already on sale. Fair enough. So now she’s coming back to complain that a discounted item is still on sale? Isn’t that a good thing? What, does she feel liked to? If there’s one thing you learn in customer service, it’s that some people can never be satisfied and just NEED a reason to complain about anything. It gives them a rush or something to make others feel like inferior shit on their shoe.
Ah, yes. The pretzel logic of the enraged consumer. My job is collecting bills for medical services, and the funnies just keep on coming. My personal favorite is, “You didn’t find anything on my mammogram – why should I pay you $XX for that?” On what will become my last day in this job, I shall respond, “Fine. You’ve got cancer. Happy now? Pay up, you fucking cunt.” Oh, yeah, it’s like that. My mother went through over 6 years of chemo and died a shitty-ass death that no one deserves in spite of it. This is NOT the time, the place, or the fat,jealous loser to argue a $25 copay with. But I’m really a nice person …
I once overheard in an Urgent Care waiting room some bloated man beast arguing that, “If the doctor can’t find out what’s wrong with me, I shouldn’t have to pay!” Because hypochondriacs wouldn’t bleed that system dry? Logic, that waste of oxygen had none.
But vets are so expensive! I mean, if my kitten weighs 1% of what I do, her care should be 1% of my cost, right?? CAN’T YOU GIVE ME A DISCOUNT FOR NO REASON???
Seriously? My answer is always, “Thank goodness you didn’t find anything! Here’s every penny you deserve for looking at the bundle of claws and teeth I refer to as my cat!”
I think it’s more of the frustration of having an animal with a problem (e.g. vomiting cat), and not being able to figure out the cause with routine tests. Though some people pay for routine bloodwork/etc *hoping* that it’ll be worth it by having something abnormal… ._.
“Perfect for the cook who doesn’t.” That’s me! Finally, someone is realizing there are those of us out there who just want to look adorable while we open up the chinese takeout.
Haha! Yes! Sounds like you have the same problem as my mother when it comes to recipes. And we do want everyone to look good while serving their takeout.
omfg, yet another reason I am glad my country has an alright Medicare system (except for dental, some meds and non-emergency ambulance rides, and the fact there is never enough hospital funding/beds/expertise).
Were you also forced into a life of crime a la “Breaking Bad” for your mother’s medical bills?
You should diagnose them with a case of either Asshat or Douchecanoe, then get them to pay up.
Holy crap, it pretty much made my day when I saw this on Regretsy just now. You FJLs are seriously the fucking best. Anybody here is welcome to use CFACE10 for 10% off any aprons in our shop: http://www.drapesofwrath.etsy.com
OMG your aprons are super adorable! Question: Are they intended to be actual cooking aprons, or more fashion aprons? (obiously not the sheer ones, of course, which are totes adorbz, btw) Like, would they be machine washable?
Thank you! The majority of them are machine washable, some of them we suggest hang drying though. The men’s aprons we’ve started making so the the shirt part can be taken out and washed separately since most of the suits are dry clean only. So really it just depends, but yes, the sheer ones and the chiffon ones are intended as more hostess type.
It’s not much, but I favorited your shop and pinned one of your aprons to my pinterest boards. I’m so irritated on your behalf right now, and I want to do something to help.
Bet you never thought “Cuntface” would become a term of endearment. Just bought that adorable black and red strawberry half apron from you. Thanks for the FJL discount!
What a douchebag. I have run into these kinds before as well.
I make one of a kind costumes from vintage clothing and they can’t seem to get that no I don’t have them in every size.
One chick got insane with me because I couldn’t make a 34 inch bust fit her 40 dd’s, she just couldn’t grasp that it was the only one I had and I couldn’t make another JUST LIKE it to fit her. When I told her how much it would cost to fabricate it from scratch she got abusive and nasty. Of course Etsy did fuck all.
so even though my shit says ONE OF A KIND people are sure that’s a lie.
I Politely told her I was sorry I couldn’t make her happy and not to convo me again. She did, of course, just to tell me I was a lying asshole who had no talent. Really? Then why did you want to buy my costume?
Well, to be fair, you’re probably one of the few folks on Etsy who knows what One Of A Kind actually means.
Don’t misunderstand, I’m certainly not siding with Mizz Double D here by any stretch, but people throw that term around and then put “3 available” in the listing.
Just so everyone knows, fabric NEVER goes on sale for .89 a yard at Joann’s . They have a pricing system that ends in 7s so the cheapest it would go would be .87 or .97 a yard.
All my summers wasted in college by working at Joann’s instead of partying in the carribiean are woth it to be able to call this person out as a liar.
I have seen fabric on sale for .87¢ at JoAnns. It is usually located either near the cutting tables in a tiered bin marked “remnants” or towards the back of the store near the quilting cottons.
And even then it is usually burlap, or some hideous poly blend with an equally hideous pattern.
Drapes of Wrath should give a tutorial on “The Proper Way to Upcycle” to some of the poor souls featured on Regretsy. Although, I’m thinking there is no hope for those ones.
I am waiting for one question to be answered before I go buy myself one. Fuck it. It’s my birthday tomorrow and this is some ONE OF A FUCKING KIND actual handcrafted awesomeness.
In my past life before the recession, I worked in jobs where I was pretty much isolated. I had bosses that didn’t understand what I did and left me alone, I didn’t have really any coworkers, and I was far away from customers. Then I believed in the basic goodness of humanity.
Some time after the recession and months of job hunting, my sister and I finally just decided to go into business ourselves, and sell our hand-made jewelry. We started on etsy and moved on to shows at anywhere that would have us. Now that I’m dealing with the public on a daily baises, and I’m not the humanist I used to be. I’ve had people try and cheat me in real life, and steal from me on etsy.
I only came to point out that threatening someone with bad reviews and calling them cuntface isn’t passive-aggressive, it’s just plain aggressive. Passive-aggressive is telling your mother in law that she looks nice today and then pissing in her coffeepot when she’s in the other room.
June 4, 2012 at 9:32 am
Merry Christmas, every one…except you, cuntface.
June 4, 2012 at 9:35 am
Cuntface? Oh well, since you asked so nicely, yes I will give you an additional discount on top of the 10% discount and free shipping already in place just for being so pleasant! Cumbucket.
June 4, 2012 at 3:35 pm
And they say calling people cuntface won’t get you anything.
June 4, 2012 at 6:19 pm
http://cuntface.net/
“The Antisocial Networking Site”
June 4, 2012 at 11:24 am
Sorry to jump into an unrelated thread, but I wanted to tell everyone:
The seller is here! Comment 42!
June 4, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I am here and I bring discounts! Haha but only 10%, ya know, because I’m such a cuntface.
Use CFACE10 in our shop for 10% all our overpriced FJL aprons.
http://www.drapesofwrath.etsy.com
June 4, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Thanks for the link! (Seriously, Etsy should fucking WORSHIP April at this point. All the Etsy shopping I do any more starts at Regretsy.)
June 4, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Wow – did you see the spider-web apron – COOL! And this is one of the few times that “upcycled” really are improved; neat vintage prints.
June 4, 2012 at 9:33 am
Evidently aprons are super fucking serious.
If he/she/it/whatever has the fabric, why don’t they make their own? If *I* can make an apron, so can they.
June 4, 2012 at 9:40 am
Seriously. Aprons and simple tote bags are the first things I made as a novice sewist. At age 10.
June 4, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Sewist?
June 5, 2012 at 9:37 am
Well, considering the alternative is sewer…
June 4, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Sewist is seriously my new favorite word. I need to practice my sewery.
June 4, 2012 at 9:42 am
APRONS ARE TOTES SRS BZNESS!!! EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!!!
I HAVE TO PROTECT MY VINTAGE CAT BUTT SWEATER AND MY SKANTS FROM EARL GREY SPILLS AND MENSTRUAL BLOOD STAINS!!! ZOMFGWTFBBQRAGEFACE!!!!
June 4, 2012 at 9:45 am
Um, thats Etsy over there, if you’re protecting things from Sacred Menstrual Blood Wombyn Power you’re doing it wrong.
June 4, 2012 at 9:53 am
Hey… these skants are VINTAGE dude. VINTAGE. I HAVE to protect them from stains… Where else can you get a 1999 Gap sweatshirt-made-skants??? WHERE, I ASK YOU???
June 4, 2012 at 9:59 am
Ummmmmmmmm….. Etsy?
June 4, 2012 at 10:08 am
Goodwill?
June 4, 2012 at 10:40 am
Here I thought Skants were self-protecting from Sacred Menstrual Blood Wombyn Power. Isn’t that what the head-hole is repurposed for?
June 4, 2012 at 11:08 am
It’s because the tight waistbands make them flattering and slimming. That’s why fat jealous losers love them, anyway. It’s not just the ladies either; I’m wearing one right now. And nothing else.
June 4, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Photo please, Puppy Sandwich!
June 4, 2012 at 9:58 am
The buyer couldn’t make the apron hisself because cuntface failed to let him know how much fabric he needed!!!
June 4, 2012 at 10:19 am
Cuntface should have reply “It take me 2 meter, so if you send me your fabric, I’ll do you a favour and make yours for 48,04$”
June 4, 2012 at 10:55 am
That person is full of shit. I bought those exact fabrics and they were expensive. Even IF they were clearance it would have been priced at more than .89 and they don’t clearance Halloween fabric in Sept. As I recall they were about 12.99 a yard (I know they were at least 8.99)and clearance on the Halloween fabrics was just under $4 a yard. Those fabrics were very popular too. They were gone long before Halloween.
June 4, 2012 at 11:02 am
Yeah I seriously doubt the 89 cents thing! I’ve been to Joann’s. They don’t give that shit away.
June 4, 2012 at 11:17 am
I was a sad panda. They didn’t have those fabrics last Halloween. I laid them over bright colored satin for mini top hats and fascinators. They were adorable.
June 4, 2012 at 1:21 pm
I bet it was totally 89 cents. In 1989.
June 4, 2012 at 7:13 pm
I’ve seen fabric for $.99 on clearance there. It was orange plaid shiny polyester, or radioactive-colored velvet pile – the stuff they couldn’t sell for any more.
Seasonal fabrics are NEVER that cheap.
June 4, 2012 at 9:33 am
I really wish Etsy had a block buyer list capability. My ebay blocked list is miles long.
June 4, 2012 at 9:40 am
That would be really nice! No more arguing over the time you spent, or the money you are asking just to try and please a customer who won’t be satisfied.
June 4, 2012 at 10:04 am
Amen! I once had a listing for a Yahoo! button. It made the Yahoo! yodeling sound when you pressed it. I included photos in the listing (yes, more than one).
The first question I got was, “What color is it?”. I answered, “Yellow and Purple, the Yahoo! colors” My correspondence with that buyer went downhill after that (really, how many ways can you say, “it’s [blank], just as in the description”?). I didn’t know about blocking.
The questioner bid and bid until he/she/it won the auction. I cringed when I saw that.
Of course she/he/it gave me mediocre feedback and lambasted me for the shipping charges which were clearly posted in the auction. Of course.
June 4, 2012 at 11:09 am
Whenever I sell on ebay I get crap for the shipping price AFTER the person has won the auction. When I buy, I always look at the shipping price and figure it in. But then, I’m not a moron or an asshole. Is it seriously that difficult to look at the shipping price before you bid? I often worry for humanity.
June 4, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Especially since eBay allows you to sort listings by price plus shipping!
June 4, 2012 at 10:52 am
A block list would be great.
But that wouldn’t be very…ETSY, would it? You’d be calling people out. Nobody wants that in Happyland.
This transaction is getting a little meaniebots, I’m going to have to shut this shop down now, thanks!
June 4, 2012 at 9:34 am
Can’t read my can’t read my no he can’t read my cuntyface… she’s got the sales to prove it!
June 4, 2012 at 9:34 am
Assholes seem to just be able to creep into every little part of life I wouldn’t even think of.
June 4, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Assholes are universal. They’re one of those things that should bring us all together in a Whoville-Christmas-spirit-like fashion. Because if there’s one thing everyone in the whole world hates having to deal with, it’s assholes.
June 4, 2012 at 4:35 pm
You know what they say:
No matter where you go, there will always be at least one asshole. If there isn’t, the asshole might be you!
June 4, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Oh my God. I need that first sentence as a sampler.
June 4, 2012 at 9:35 am
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June 4, 2012 at 9:39 am
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June 4, 2012 at 9:40 am
Are you seeing the shop?
June 4, 2012 at 9:43 am
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June 4, 2012 at 9:43 am
If it’s this shop, they are really cute aprons. I don’t know that this specific one is really worth $50, but her other stuff is nice.
http://www.etsy.com/listing/83950824/womens-sheer-halloween-apron-purple-and
June 4, 2012 at 9:46 am
Ah.. didn’t think to search for title.
That’s a cute apron!
June 4, 2012 at 9:46 am
I agree! I think the styles are cute. I thought about listing some half aprons a while back, but ultimately the for the work I put in… it was tough to price them.
June 4, 2012 at 9:49 am
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June 4, 2012 at 12:02 pm
You would lose money on it then.
June 4, 2012 at 9:52 am
That’s adorable! And honestly, it looks worth 50$ to me, particularly when you think of other things people play 50$ for. I mean, normally people decide what they’re willing to pay based on the design, skill, work, ingenuity, and not just the materials involved. Otherwise, I doubt that half of the things in malls would ever sell.
If you want to only pay the cost of materials- make it yourself!
June 4, 2012 at 9:55 am
The only thing stopping it from being a real cute dress is the lack of a backside.
June 4, 2012 at 9:56 am
There is a kink for everyone dear.
June 4, 2012 at 10:01 am
If the pockets were styled differently, I’d totally wear http://www.etsy.com/listing/99317613/reversible-up-cycled-apron-nautical-map?ref=v1_other_1 if it were a dress.
June 4, 2012 at 10:03 am
@Pixie I was tempted to buy that one myself!
June 4, 2012 at 9:55 am
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June 4, 2012 at 10:35 am
Maybe you got thumbed down because you’re wrong.
A. It’s not the same apron. The last time this seller sold an apron with “skulls and bats” on it was December 7.
https://www.etsy.com/transaction/66090275?transaction_id=66090275
B. Unless you’ve been watching that item regularly, you don’t know if this is the same sale or a different one.
June 4, 2012 at 10:50 am
I didn’t so much have a problem with the “customer” asking how much the seller paid for the fabric, or what s/he was working towards, or the details of the sale. It was the threat of a Paypal dispute, bad feedback, and ultimately the “have a nice day, cuntface” passive aggressiveness that kinda finished it for me.
Whatever s/he was working towards, whether s/he thought the apron was overpriced or fairly priced, or whether the seller was right or wrong to not knock off a few bucks seems sort of irrelevant when you read the last message.
I’m lucky that I haven’t run into this sort of person (yet), but I’m not counting it out. Some people have nothing better to do than be this nasty, and seeing that this really does occur makes me nervous.
June 4, 2012 at 11:32 am
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June 4, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Did occur to you that someone that nasty is lying about the cost of the fabric too? Halloween fabric isn’t clearanced in September. That is expensive fabric and cost somewhere between $18 and $28 dollars.
June 4, 2012 at 12:10 pm
* total fabric cost*
June 4, 2012 at 6:07 pm
hmm, dunno if it would help if it were known my comment was for Bitch pudding’s comment.
ce la vie!
June 4, 2012 at 9:53 am
I agree, they’re a lot nicer than your standard home-ec “apron”.
However, I question the effectiveness of a SHEER apron.
June 4, 2012 at 10:00 am
I’m guessing it’s a hostess apron. They are just for show to set the hostess apart and make you feel like one fancy frocker.
June 4, 2012 at 10:00 am
I think it probably is VERY effective at what it is designed to do. When you think about it, $60 really isn’t that much for lingerie.
June 4, 2012 at 10:01 am
I imagine it being either just a fun thing to wear as the hostess of a Halloween party OR a kinky wear-alone costume for a roll playing night. “Hello, darling. I have some freshly baked muffins here. Care for a bite? *wink*”
June 4, 2012 at 9:59 am
I’m in love with this one. I would find a way to wear it out of the house. If I I had any excuse to buy fun clothing, I would buy it.
http://www.etsy.com/listing/89611901/mens-apron-up-cycled-from-suit-jacket
June 4, 2012 at 10:20 am
That apron is pretty clever.
Sad that this is how we are finding this seller – but I’m glad we found them!
June 4, 2012 at 10:49 am
Yes indeed! I have added the shop to my favourites list. I’m sure the business they’ll get out of Regretsy publicity will wash away the hurtful words of the cheap weirdo.
June 4, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Aw dammit! I love this. I need a new apron at work – I use it when I do fittings for theatre so it needs decent pockets. Maybe another one will show up?? PRETTY PLEASE??
June 4, 2012 at 10:08 am
Oh, great. You know what I needed in my life? More aprons, because 13 is clearly not enough. fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
June 4, 2012 at 11:14 am
ZOMG so cute! -grabby hands toward apron-
June 4, 2012 at 9:47 am
http://www.etsy.com/listing/84110416/10-off-womens-sheer-halloween-apron-with
Sold!
Come on, which one of you FJL’s bought it?
June 4, 2012 at 9:50 am
Or maybe not! Unless she just sold 20 other aprons this morning. (They really should put the price it sold for and when it sold, imho)
June 4, 2012 at 9:57 am
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t sold when I looked it up 20 minutes ago. Now I wonder who submitted that conversation … the seller, or the prospective buyer?
June 4, 2012 at 10:39 am
It says on the listing that it sold Dec 27 2011
June 4, 2012 at 12:21 pm
My mistake! I thought that was the one I linked earlier, which sold this morning.
June 4, 2012 at 10:38 am
It sold in 2011.
June 4, 2012 at 9:51 am
months i’ve been trying to work it out…what is a FJL? I’ve come up with many ideas..but i’m sure they’re wrong…
June 4, 2012 at 9:54 am
Fat jealous loser.
June 4, 2012 at 9:59 am
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June 4, 2012 at 10:03 am
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June 4, 2012 at 2:14 pm
It’s o.k. to ask – we all have to find out sometime.
June 4, 2012 at 9:54 am
Fat Jealous Loser
June 4, 2012 at 9:59 am
Flan Jello Lover
June 4, 2012 at 10:12 am
You didn’t give me what I wanted and now I will punish you. WTH is wrong with some people??
June 4, 2012 at 10:12 am
ACK! That was supposed to be a stand-alone comment, not a reply.
June 4, 2012 at 10:23 am
Flamingo Jerky Lover
June 4, 2012 at 10:30 am
The best kind of jerky.
June 4, 2012 at 10:40 am
Fancies Jack LaLane
June 4, 2012 at 10:44 am
Fucking Jersey Lawyers
June 4, 2012 at 10:54 am
since 2011
June 4, 2012 at 11:00 am
The nasty ones (like when we laugh at a zany item, and they get butthurt rather than noticing the hundreds of potential customers whose attention they have) sometimes write Regretsy a sour letter, and they inevitably claim we only hang out here out of envy that we can’t make lovely antiqued clothespegs ourselves or whatever, like we’re tearing people down to feel better about how talentless, dateless, broke, overweight, ugly, etc etc we are. (yes yes, I know- you come here for a giggle & the occasional warm-fuzzy feeling… I’m just telling you what the angry sellers say about us, not at all claiming it’s true) So we began calling each other and ourselves Fat Jealous Losers. It’s especially meaningful when we’ve contributed tons of amazing handcrafted items for a charity auction or suchlike, where it is clear we have no reason to be jealous, and are anything but losers, and are actually wonderful people… then Helen tells us we’re such FJLs ironically. Now you noobs know!
June 4, 2012 at 11:19 am
Yea but we are fat.
Well not Bronc, but the rest of us.
June 4, 2012 at 11:33 am
In fact, I think it’s an actual quote from a “nasty one”. Oh well, looks like regretsy legends start to get lost in the beginnings of time…
June 4, 2012 at 11:42 am
Yes, in one of the most extreme fits of butthurt someone created a Facebook group called RegretsyisforfatuglyJealouslosers. Somewhere along the line the “ugly” got dropped out, not sure why.
June 4, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Because “FUJL” has enough letters to look like a word when you’re drunk. Which is always for us, what with the soul-crushing emptiness of our lives.
June 4, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I’m pretty sure the ‘ugly’ got dropped because we may be fat and jealous but we’re pretty damn beautiful!
June 4, 2012 at 2:00 pm
We are all FJLs in the minds of the butthurt, whether or not we are actually fat, jealous, or losers.
If nothing else, it confirms their lack of creativity and imagination.
June 4, 2012 at 10:28 am
If that was my shop Halloween aprons would be 10% off for life out of spite.
June 4, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Except for that one butthurtee!
June 4, 2012 at 10:42 am
It’s a fair price. Truth is that I think they are too nice to splatter food all over. A lot of those look like they’d make nice dresses (if they had backs). She should branch out into dress making. I’d definitely buy a dress from her if they were anything like those aprons.
June 4, 2012 at 3:22 pm
I told my husband that! Like, these are FAB aprons and would make adorable dresses!
June 4, 2012 at 5:42 pm
It didn’t read apron to me at all. I would have assumed it was a dress, which I would have totally bought.
June 4, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Well you could always not wear anything under it
June 4, 2012 at 3:53 pm
I actually have one of their sheer halloween aprons and I love it.
June 4, 2012 at 9:35 am
there is nothing that annoys me more than the Passive-Aggressive Sendoff, especially if it’s over some damn aprons.
June 4, 2012 at 9:36 am
This is what the Bend Over, Kiss and Make Up feature is for!
June 4, 2012 at 9:42 am
BOKMU??? Sounds like a new meme to me!
June 4, 2012 at 10:13 am
You didn’t give me what I wanted and now I will punish you. WTH is wrong with some people??
June 4, 2012 at 9:37 am
I don’t even know what to make of that.
Is Cuntface from GWAR selling Aprons on Etsy now?
June 4, 2012 at 11:11 am
BEST COMMENT EVER!!!!
June 4, 2012 at 12:39 pm
This should happen.
June 4, 2012 at 9:37 am
I can only imagine how charming the Hostess would be at her Halloween party. New apron, that she squeezed every last nickel out of, and a brand new attitude.
I’m not touching the punch.
June 4, 2012 at 9:47 am
Seriously – do NOT eat what she is cookin’.
June 4, 2012 at 10:37 am
My sister delivered packages in Tahoe. Once during a freakin’ blizzard this bitch calls the office complaining that her caviar wasn’t being delivered for her New Years Eve party. If the delivery van can’t get up that tiny little winding road your guests aren’t either, dumbass.
June 4, 2012 at 9:38 am
Oh shit, I just had a “working in retail” flashback. Someone talk me down before I got to the top of the tower.
June 4, 2012 at 12:26 pm
I don’t know, I work in a damn book store and I’ve seen much worse than this. You would believe the number of things that are without a doubt my fault that I didn’t even know about. It’s a damn good thing my store is on ground level and away from a busy road…
June 4, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Damnit. Wouldn’t, you wouldn’t believe. I couldn’t even type this without a mistake. This job has fucked me up you guys. I’ll be in this corner, crying into my sewing machine.
June 4, 2012 at 1:17 pm
I worked in pet stores for 20 years and have seen crazy and stupid inside and out. When people tried to put blame on me or get nasty, I’d give it right back to them. It wasn’t beneath me to call a customer a fucking asshole. If I lost a customer, there were more to take their place.
June 4, 2012 at 1:57 pm
I recently witnessed a man yelling at a bookstore manager because they didn’t have a copy of a current NYT best seller. The fact that it came out several weeks ago and only just sold out before he got his lazy ass in to buy it was lost on him. I feel sorry for his elementary-school age daughter who had to watch her daddy being a major douchebag.
June 4, 2012 at 2:51 pm
It’s 2012. If you’re an adult and don’t know that you can get just about any book from Amazon by tomorrow, you don’t deserve to read. NO LITERATURE FOR YOU, ASSMUNCH!
June 4, 2012 at 3:15 pm
He told her he prefers to support brick-and-mortar bookstores. Because then he can verbally assault an innocent woman in front of his child.
It was a fucking Barnes & Noble. Buy it online and they’re still getting the money.
June 4, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Plus, buying it from them in store or online won’t stop them from going under sometime in the next 24 months anyway.
June 4, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Well, I was going to talk you down, but I’ve somehow found myself up there with you.
Ah, the hell that is retail. The best proof ever that people are dicks.
June 5, 2012 at 2:18 am
Funny but it seems I always wind up here with you
Nice to know somebody loves me
Funny but it seems that it’s the only thing to do
Run and find the one who loves me
What I feel has come and gone before
No need to talk it out
We know what it’s all about
Nothing to do but frown
Rainy days and Mondays always get me down
June 4, 2012 at 6:52 pm
I had a ‘working at Joann Fabrics’ flashback. these people try this in the damn store. “Why is this fabric full price? It was on sale last month!”
90% of all the customers were amazing, and i super-loved working there. I did actually get into a couple of shouting matches with a few of the other percentile. Once over foam and once over an order for curtain fabric. They were lucky to not be buying knitting needles at the time.
June 4, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Wish I’d been to yours. The last time I went to a fabric store it was a Hancock. There were two customers and three employees. I couldn’t get anyone to answer my question about whether they had a specific thing I needed and couldn’t find. They kept charging around the store after the sole other customer, a lady with a shopping cart full of quilting supplies, instead.
June 4, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Yeah, I worked at Hobby Lobby in the Art Supplies department (which somehow also included the models, kids science kits and fabric paints and accessories) for about 6 months. It was 5 months and 3 weeks too long.
When I’d had the third person that day yelling at me because I wasn’t quite sure where the “sequence” were at the same time that someone else was calling me a “retarded, mongoloid, illiterate, backwoods hick” because I hadn’t the foggiest clue what she was talking about when she asked for “the van golf paints” (took me only once of saying “sorry? Didn’t catch that.” to figure out that she meant the Van Gogh brand paints) I decided enough was enough and left.
Haven’t regretted it since. Seriously. I thought I caught abuse waiting tables. I think I’d rather work 2 waitressing jobs than go back to another retail job.
June 4, 2012 at 9:39 am
This is terrifying!
June 4, 2012 at 9:39 am
Oh well, now that we see you coming, we’ll make sure to screen shot this lovely convo and send it Etsy’s way. Not too bright, are you?
June 4, 2012 at 9:40 am
That’s my standard e-mail signature:
As discussed I will be reviewing the Branson account this Friday and will submit my recommendations during the Monday meeting with the client.
June 4, 2012 at 11:22 am
*resets feature on iPad’s email custom signature feature*
June 4, 2012 at 9:42 am
What an evil wench and she wasn’t even funny. I always tell my friends, if you’re going to be a bitch at least be an entertaining bitch.
June 4, 2012 at 9:51 am
And supply Canapés.
June 4, 2012 at 10:24 am
She’s really good at (middle) finger foods.
June 4, 2012 at 9:45 am
you have a cunt for a face, you big disgrace, discounting aprons all over the place.
June 4, 2012 at 11:28 am
I can’t thumbs up this comment enough to express how awesome it is!
June 4, 2012 at 4:06 pm
PayPal, PayPal, DISPUTES YOU!
June 4, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Buyer, you’re an big ass, no class, think your threats will get you your way someday, but there’s a weapon against your lack of good sense: a screenshot to prove you’re too rude and dense…
WE WISH WE COULD BLOCK YOU
June 5, 2012 at 7:23 pm
You guys have my grandparents wondering why NCIS is making me giggle so hard…
June 4, 2012 at 9:45 am
It’s just a fucking apron. What the hell? Why talk a price down? Do you NEED that fucking apron so badly that you’ll call someone a cunt face over it? Maybe someone should strangle you with the apron strings? You know, to gain some clarity?
June 4, 2012 at 9:46 am
I didn’t used to understand why people wanted to block buyers. Now I do. Lesson learned.
June 4, 2012 at 9:56 am
Dear Seller of Cute Spidery Apron,
Assholes are everywhere. Ignore them. I would totally buy that apron, 10% off or not.
And if I had the figure, I’d wear absolutely nothing under it.
Love,
EI
June 4, 2012 at 10:14 am
Fuck it, wear it with nothing under it anyway.
June 4, 2012 at 10:47 am
You just need to find someone that appreciates your figure, and wear it for them, and you.
June 4, 2012 at 9:47 am
I prefer to use passive-aggressive punctuation. You know, so . = “prick”, : = “cunt”, “)” = “face”, so on.
It makes “have a nice day
” so much more satisfying.
June 4, 2012 at 9:47 am
So this person wants to pay less than the advertised price but is bitching that the apron is still on sale? Ah, Etsylogic.
June 4, 2012 at 9:49 am
Courtney, is that you?
June 4, 2012 at 11:26 am
I just needed to pop by an say I’m really happy you don’t have any of your bags available for purchase online because I need another bag like I need another hole in my head and I’m a sucker for hand printing.
June 4, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Oh, but they are on etsy which you can access through my website, sorry.
June 4, 2012 at 5:54 pm
nnnnnnuuuuuuuuuuuuu, you evil temptress, you!
June 4, 2012 at 9:50 am
June 4, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Judging by the expression on that cat’s face, it is moments away from teaching someone a lesson.
June 4, 2012 at 2:04 pm
And the only sewing that will be done will take place in the ER.
June 4, 2012 at 9:51 am
*someone* thought it was worth it. http://www.etsy.com/transaction/66090275
Her bias taping skills bring all the nuts to the yard.
i think it’s really cute.
June 4, 2012 at 11:29 am
When I first saw “apron”, I’m thinking, a square of fabric and some ties. But when I saw her actual work I was like, Damn, ok, this bitch can sew XD
Super cute stuff.
June 4, 2012 at 9:52 am
And the cupcakes think that *we’re* mean
June 4, 2012 at 9:53 am
I have absolutely no use for aprons, but I almost want to buy one because the seller remained so calm in the face of such entitlement. Kudos to you, seller!
June 4, 2012 at 11:30 am
It was really hard to suppress my hulk rage, no joke.
June 4, 2012 at 9:59 am
I thought Dick Tracy killed off Cuntface back around 1943. Are you sure this isn’t Daughter of Cuntface (or maybe even Granddaughter?)
June 4, 2012 at 10:03 am
I think you are thinking of Bitchface.
June 4, 2012 at 10:57 am
I dunno about that, but I’d sure wear this apron while making bitch pudding if I could just find that cunting recipe!
June 4, 2012 at 11:29 am
The recipe is as follows
Lard
Jealousy
Failure
June 4, 2012 at 2:31 pm
One would imagine it should read
Failure
Jealousy
Lard
June 4, 2012 at 6:08 pm
ooh, i see what you did!
June 4, 2012 at 10:01 am
That apron is freaking adorable. Maybe not worth $50, but the seller may have paid the original price of like $13/yard, not 99 cents a yard on clearance. Plus you pay for bias tape and thread, and sewing time…I think it’s fantastic, and if I didn’t sew myself I would totally want to buy one. The problem with buyers is that they don’t have the skills to make the items they buy, so they only see the value of materials, and don’t value time. I calculate prices based on material costs and a hourly rate for my time.
June 4, 2012 at 10:06 am
Not to flog the whole handmade argument…but I think it’s totally worth the price. I am totally lazy and horrible at sewing, and when I have the scratch I don’t mind paying someone else properly for doing what I can’t.
$50 is less than what I’ve paid for crappy, mass-produced components for my kid’s Halloween costume. For something that won’t be outgrown, and that’s well-made? YOU SEW, GIRL.
June 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm
As others have said, the reason people buy handmade is because of the quality, originality, and cleverness of someone’s design.
I’d wear this and feel terribly chic when hosting a party. And my husband would be dreaming of bending me over in it all night long!
June 4, 2012 at 10:17 am
It’s actually not that bad a price. I’ve drooled over a lot of aprons on etsy and her prices are pretty comprable. This one is probably more because it looks like there’s 2 layers of fabric, and that can be a bitch to sew.
June 4, 2012 at 10:19 am
It may not be worth $50 to you, but in that situation a logical person would just not buy the freaking apron… Instead of threatening buyer’s fraud and closing their angry letter with a cuntface tag.
Maybe we’re in the age of self righteous entitlement, but it seems weird to get as upset as they did over an item that they want but don’t want to pay for…
June 4, 2012 at 10:20 am
Words to live by: Never do yourself what you can pay someone else to do for you.
June 4, 2012 at 11:47 am
I have an auntie who has always invoked that principle regarding ice cubes. Which I find fucking hilarious.
June 5, 2012 at 9:41 am
…because it IS fucking hilarious.
June 4, 2012 at 10:23 am
OR they’re so used to paying the prices of Chinese Resellers, that they’re using “a nickel a day” as their labor cost…
June 4, 2012 at 10:32 am
Right now, $50 is around £30. That strikes me as well priced for something handmade.
I have no use for such a thing, but making a rough guess of material cost and time to make $50 isn’t a crazy price.
June 4, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Only because of the weak dollar. The exchange rate favors those using a stable currency. It’ll be very very expensive in drachmas, which don’t seem that far off.
June 4, 2012 at 10:38 am
I know right- these aprons are adorable. I’m looking through her other aprons, and if I had the money around I would be custom ordering as fast as I saw a listing for it. I don’t think $50 is too much for a double layered apron, but even if I did I wouldn’t jump on the poor seller for it. If it costs too much for your wallet, once the buyer stays firm on the price just move on.
June 4, 2012 at 11:16 am
There’s also nothing wrong with charging upto what the market will bear, either. If your time and materials come out with a price of $40, but people are willing to pay $50, then it’s okay to charge $50. Etsy may be about handmade and vintage, but it’s still business. If your prices are higher than people are willing to pay, they just won’t buy it.
June 4, 2012 at 10:06 am
I’ve been having this same problem with a customer of my own. He keeps asking me to lower the price on some shoes. When I said no he sent me a story about how he deserves them for cheaper because he is “a broke college student”, which was funny because so am I. I’ve gotten about six messages that all just say, “So are you ready to come down on the price now?” in the last two weeks after I declined the second time. I wanted to ask in the Etsy forums if there is any way to block someone but that would be “calling out” >.> So, if I’m reading these comments correctly, there is no blocking some one on Etsy? I wrote Etsy support but got no answer.
June 4, 2012 at 10:18 am
What’s the listing? I’m tempted to buy them just to get him to leave you alone…
June 4, 2012 at 10:25 am
They are these shoes; https://www.etsy.com/listing/99220278/vintage-1980s-editor-in-chief-royal
I wanted to block him because I’m kind of afraid of him buying them, or something else, and leaving negative feedback because he might be sore that I wouldn’t discount them. I told him when I planned on putting them on sale but he still messages me =/ It isn’t anything verbally abusive or threatening but it is pretty annoying.
June 4, 2012 at 10:32 am
I’d would buy those for my husband as they would look super sweet with his Victorian smoking suit. (Yes that is a real thing LOL). Unfortunately, not his size.
June 4, 2012 at 11:04 am
I love men in smoking jackets! Classiest way to lounge around the house.
June 4, 2012 at 10:35 am
I wish I had size ten feet. I would take them just to spite that guy.
June 4, 2012 at 2:28 pm
I love them too, but my feet are a women’s ten, which is about a men’s 8, or I’d rock the shit out of those shoes.
June 4, 2012 at 10:37 am
Really?! I’ve payed double for shoes terrible shoes that lasted a day. Lower it half a cent
June 4, 2012 at 10:53 am
Why? That only reenforces that if you be a totally annoying pricktard long enough, people will give you what you want. If only some parents would learn this lesson we wouldn’t have so many entitled speshul snowflakes running around.
June 4, 2012 at 3:07 pm
I think what Beri meant is lower it by such a small amount as to mock the annoying guy. Still a bad idea btw don’t antagonize a potential buyer. :p
June 4, 2012 at 10:53 am
Omg, those are both horrific and fantastic at the same time. I wish I had an extra $45 to help a FJL out. I also wish that horrific elephant sweater was a medium/large, because it’s so hideously awesome
June 4, 2012 at 11:06 am
I specialize in the horrifically fantastic and exceptionally hideous! It’s been my hair style of choice for some time now.
June 4, 2012 at 11:38 am
I’m trying to figure out what a broke college student would want those awesomely hideous shoes for. When I was in college, all I cared about was that the soles didn’t fall out of my chucks.
June 4, 2012 at 3:10 pm
I think by broke college student he meant cheap ass rich college student. At least I find as a semi-broke college student the two get mixed up quite alot.
June 4, 2012 at 6:00 pm
And I bet they never did. I think I’ve been wearing the same pair for about 10 years now.
June 4, 2012 at 11:08 am
Those are gorgeous shoes, worth every dime. A completely sane asking price. I wouldn’t budge either.
And HOLY SHIT GUIZE, she’s got a Hellephant Sweater listed! http://www.etsy.com/listing/100522211/vintage-1980s-cropped-pink-elephants-on
June 4, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Why do we call it the Hellephant?
June 4, 2012 at 2:06 pm
http://www.regretsy.com/2011/04/17/weekend-flashback-hellephant-2/
That’s the one-year flashback. Best I can do on my phone.
(check out Jewel Renee’s shop – I think there’s an ad to the right for cure Hellephant prints.)
June 4, 2012 at 9:52 pm
It just occurred to me why the Hellephant looks so familiar. Somewhere in storage, I have a small (4″ tall, maybe?) toy rabbit made out of the same material. Same color and everything. I’ll be spending most of the week clearing boxes out of my garage; hopefully I can find it.
June 4, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Holy shit, some serious deja vu there… my mother had a sweater dress in that exact same pattern!
June 4, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I recommend tripling the price. Just to spite him. Then you know he won’t buy them. After a while, he’ll give up, you put them on “sale”, and sell them. Of course, he may be a maniac shoe fanatic who will watch forever…I’d still raise the price just to spite him, but that’s me.
June 4, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Can she change the listing to “reserved for Scrooge McDuck”?
June 4, 2012 at 2:05 pm
I’d be tempted to raise the price… but then, I’m irritating that way.
June 4, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Got them. They will fit the husband nicely.
June 4, 2012 at 4:51 pm
You’re awesome! I packed something special in with the shoes! I hope you and your husband like them ♥
June 4, 2012 at 9:57 pm
No, you fool! Inside of shoes is one of the first places the drug-sniffing dogs will look!
June 4, 2012 at 10:19 am
And you know that person is the same type who (if you DID give him a discount for being “a broke college student”) would turn around and immediately deny someone asking the same favor for the same reasons. Narcissism runs especially rampant online.
I’ve checked, but unfortunately Etsy doesn’t have a “block buyer” feature.
June 4, 2012 at 10:32 am
It irks me because I am a broke college student. But I don’t try to use any financial misfortune I may be having as a reason that someone else isn’t allowed to profit from their hard work. I don’t believe my financial limitations should be the burden of another hard working person. I would be more sympathetic to him if I were selling something vital or necessary to life, but I doubt he needs purple velvet loafers that damn bad. Some times, especially in college, you have to learn to live without all your wants and focus on your needs.
Thanks for telling me about Etsy’s policy =D They make it hard to get a straight answer. Hopefully enough people will want it that they create the feature like they did with coupon codes.
June 4, 2012 at 10:46 am
Found this awhile back while having a conversation on the subject over on Etsy. It’s from 2007, but I haven’t found any updates to change it:
http://www.etsy.com/blog/en/2007/customer-care-tip-refusing-service/
“To block a buyer, please send them an Etsy Conversation. Explain to them in an appropriate way that you cannot offer them your services. If they continue to buy from you, Etsy may consider this harassment, and may suspend the account. Please contact us here if this happens. Blocking buyers and refusing service should only be considered a last resort, and only in very extreme circumstances.”
That many messages could constitute harassment. Tell the buyer that you cannot sell to him and that if he sends you any more messages, you will report him to Etsy. Then if he buys, refund the payment and report it to Etsy if he negs you.
June 4, 2012 at 10:47 am
Of course, save all correspondence with this guy so you can demonstrate the harassment to Etsy if you need to.
June 4, 2012 at 11:06 am
Honestly, AutumnMarie, I’d just stop responding to the guy. My final message to him would be something like, “I’m sorry, but I just don’t feel comfortable lowering the price any further. If you decide you want to purchase them at the current price, I will be happy to accommodate you.
Thank you so much for you interest in my shop, best of luck in your studies!
Blessings,
AM”
You’ve covered your arse, been cordial and nonconfrontational, AND used nanners’ punctuation rules to call the guy a cuntface without him even knowing it. And Etsy doesn’t have to take a single moment from their Starbucks break to deal with it, because they’re not going to anyway. Ignore any future incoming messages from him.
So now asking advice about how to deal with confrontational customers = calling people out? FFS. Again I’m reminded why I don’t bother with the forums. Useless.
June 4, 2012 at 11:11 am
I stopped responding to him after the third message. He asked once and I declined. Then he gave me the broke college student story and I declined again and told him when I planned on putting them on sale. Then the, “So are you going to lower the price yet?” messages came in. The first one I was polite and told him no, not until the sale starts. After that I just ignore them.
Yeah, when I went to post in the forums and saw the definition of calling out it said that you cannot discuss individual transactions or conversations (which this is). I was like well hell, what kind you discuss then? Only the peachy creamy dreamy things.
June 4, 2012 at 11:50 am
I think you can talk about it IF it’s hypothetical and you’re not copying and pasting any conversations or identifying anyone. It calls for caution, but it can be done.
So I think you could ask a general question about how other sellers deal with repeated requests for discounts.
June 4, 2012 at 11:50 am
Well…I guess you could anonymize it and say a person is harassing you about dropping your prices, and how do you deal with it. If you don’t mention a specific user it can’t really be calling out, can it?
June 4, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Excellent point. I guess the worse they could do anyway is close that thread.
June 4, 2012 at 11:20 am
I really do appreciate your help. It’s amazing. You get so much more help and advice from FJL’s on customer relations, proper manners and etiquette then you do from Etsy themselves.
June 7, 2012 at 3:12 am
I just wanted to say I lovelovelove this sweater in your store – http://www.etsy.com/listing/100522211/vintage-1980s-cropped-pink-elephants-on
but I don’t know how much the international shipping will cost? when i saw it was made in Yugoslavia, i immediately hated my parent’s for not buying it for me when I was a kid.
June 7, 2012 at 3:12 am
*parents. i swear i meant to write parents.
June 4, 2012 at 11:17 am
Thanks! I did start screen capturing the conversations. I just wish their support team would have emailed me back. It feels like yelling in the dark when you need their help.
If he convo’s me again I will tell him specifically that I don’t feel I could satisfy him as a customer and I don’t think we should do business together. I will also ask him to stop contacting me and if it continues warn him that I will report him to Etsy. That should cover my butt and if needs be it could serve as the basis for blocking him, if it comes to that.
June 4, 2012 at 11:30 am
I was thinking “HA HA HA I am going to buy these” so I found out my daughter’s boyfriend’s shoe size and then went through the whole mental gymnastics of “OMG–do I spend $46 on what is essentially a joke and just to save Autumn Marie from evil broke college student? Argh. That’s a lot for a joke! But what the hell. . . ”
But then I looked at the shipping cost–Argh–have to go through more mental gymnastics to justify that–which I couldn’t quote pull off.
So here is my suggestion–put the shipping charges in with the shoe cost and ditch the shipping cost. If I had ORIGINALLY gone through the $65 joke gymnastics I might have managed it, but to go through it twice made me too cautious.
Does that make sense? I was trying to express why a potential customer might not choose to buy them. I do LOVE them–they are hilariously velvet–but couldn’t quite justify the expense once I saw the shipping cost.
June 4, 2012 at 11:57 am
GrumpyOtter, it does make sense, and this advice is something I’ve encountered in my own transactions. There’s only one problem with it, as it was recently pointed out to me: Etsy takes a cut of the final price but doesn’t take a percentage of the shipping cost. So if she adds the shipping to the price of the shoes, she’s actually giving a larger percentage to Etsy. She loses out if she does it that way.
I understand your way of thinking, because I was considering doing that to my shop too–lowering shipping and tacking on a bit to the price of the shop items, because right now it costs a bloody arm and a leg to ship from the UK to the US (at least $10 for anything containing sterling/14K), and I didn’t think people would purchase something with such high shipping fees. But I’d lose even more to Etsy’s percentages if I did that.
It’s something I hadn’t considered until someone pointed it out to me. It’s kind of a no-win situation for some items where shipping is costly.
June 4, 2012 at 1:29 pm
I’m glad you mentioned that because I had never considered that aspect of it. Shipping has become so expensive since I first started selling online years ago. It’s been embarrassing to give people international shipping quotes. The first time I had to calculate shipping to Australia for an Etsy buyer I thought it was a mistake. The shipping cost way more than the shoes themselves! It more than doubled the price =/
June 5, 2012 at 1:51 am
“Etsy takes a cut of the final price but doesn’t take a percentage of the shipping cost.”
Stupid Etsy. And if you try and put in your description to explain it to buyers, I guess that would be “calling out.”
June 4, 2012 at 12:06 pm
No, I totally get where you are coming from. I based the shipping price on the USPS.com’s shipping calculator. I usually find that their quote is high. It’ll quote one rate but when I go to the USPS to ship the item with a clerk it is always lower than the online quote, some times by several dollars. That’s why I always refund shipping charge overages. I hate it when you pay $20 for shipping and it arrives crammed in a Cheez It’s box with a $3 stamp on it =/
I appreciate all the feedback I can get. I’ve sold online in the past but I’ve only had my Etsy shop open for about a month now. Seeing my shop through the buyers point of view is the best advice I can get as a seller.
Definitely don’t feel like you should buy these to save me from this guy! You are really sweet for even considering doing that but I’m sure I’ll survive his repetitive messages =D
June 4, 2012 at 11:17 am
A broke college student who desperately needs velvet slippers?
Your price is perfect.
June 4, 2012 at 12:41 pm
It’s cutting into his pot money.
Nothing used to irritate me more when I was in college than the “I’m a broke college kid” line. Everyone has, had, or will have a financial issue at some time in their life and college really isn’t garnering much sympathy. I actually paid for college and I never once let that drivel spew from my mouth. It was a choice to go and I knew that one day I’d it would pay off (yeah OK I’m still waiting for the pay off).
I found it interesting that it always seemed to come from the kids who weren’t paying who liked to use that line the most. I’m NOT knocking them for getting a ride, that’s an amazing thing that their parents did for them and I plan to pay my kid’s way if I can. But for crying out loud, if you can’t be grateful at least keep your hole shut.
June 4, 2012 at 1:26 pm
I hear the “broke college kid” crap from the people around here. It’s a community college. They probably live at home. And the parking garage is always full of Lexuses, Mercedes, and BMWs so STFU.
June 4, 2012 at 6:34 pm
I’m actually a bit poorer now that I’m out of college, because I have to repay my student loans. Back in college, I would have bought those shoes in a snap.
June 5, 2012 at 12:38 pm
AMIRITE!? Broke college students betta brace their asses for how much broke-r they’re about to get!
June 4, 2012 at 11:02 pm
I was this way as well. My folks couldn’t help me with school, I couldn’t get one parent’s tax information so I didn’t qualify for financial aid and even though I applied for scholarships until I was sick, I never got one (being incredibly average in ever academic way tends to do that). So I worked for minimum wage or just above full time, while going to school and living on my own.
I can remember surviving on one pack of ramen a day because that’s what I could afford. I still never tried to haggle or gain sympathy by pulling the “starving college student” line.
It seemed like the ones who did use the starving student lines on a regular basis were the ones with a free ride and had mommy & daddy paying for their car, their books, their food their dorm/apt and got a substantial weekly or monthly allowance.
They were also the ones dirt broke 2 years out of school because mommy &daddy got sick of paying and cut them off and they never learned to spend wisely.
June 4, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Is his name Chad by any chance?
June 4, 2012 at 10:15 am
That’s how I do all my negotiating! For realsies, though… someone needs to refill their prescriptions.
Assholes. Assholes everywhere.
June 4, 2012 at 11:18 am
Funnily enough, that’s also how I woo potential love interests.
June 4, 2012 at 12:26 pm
By refilling their prescriptions?
LOVE ME
June 4, 2012 at 3:20 pm
by having Assholes everywhere?
June 4, 2012 at 10:17 am
I’ve seen men get their heads pulled off over skull aprons. This is some serious stuff right here. I bet that person froths at the mouth whenever they’re near a Dollar General.
June 4, 2012 at 10:19 am
I am so glad that my etsy shop is just a source of accasional mad money rather than my primary source of income…this way I have the freedom to tell pain in the ass douchebags that I’d rather not have as customers to fuck right off! I’ve had a few convo me trying to get out of paying for shipping, or wanting a lower price, or not being able to understand that actual handcrafters don’t have a stockroom full of items in various sizes…and I always very politely try to explain why they can’t have what they want. For the most part they have been pleasanlty accepting of reality, but occasionally they are completely nuts and I am happy to tell them to shop elsewhere!
June 4, 2012 at 3:42 pm
I usually just say I am not running any sales at this time and then thank them for their interest. Usually the ones asking for a discount tend to be more trouble than they are worth.
June 4, 2012 at 10:21 am
People ask me to make my Rapunzel costume for about half the price (which is the cost of materials) all the time. And then one person asked me to tell them the patterns that I used so they could just make it themselves. If you can’t figure it out, what I tell you won’t be much help since I modify everything a bunch.
I’m not sure I’m going to re-list it.
June 4, 2012 at 10:43 am
I would get stuff like this all the time back in my ebay days. Someone demanding the price be lowered, failing that they demand you must turn over your patterns to them so they can make it themselves. I would also have people get pissed at me when I wouldn’t tell them who my suppliers were (for the non hand made stuff). You work hard and pour countless hours into making a business and people don’t understand that you aren’t willing to fork over your vital business information to your competition. The sense of entitlement is mind boggling.
June 4, 2012 at 11:20 am
Yep, that bloody entitlement and the nastiness that comes with it. Asking you to lower the price to HALF because they don’t know understand how much work goes into something is obnoxious. Demanding that you lower the price because they don’t care…well, fuckabuncha that.
I had a guy at a craft fair pick up one of my handmade mosaic mirrors, look at me with one cocked brow, and say, “$18? Oh come on. We both know it isn’t worth that much.”
I was young and green at the time, and O how I wished I had taken that thing out of his hands and said, “you’re right, it isn’t. Now it’s worth $118. I take Visa and Mastercard.” But I didn’t, and after a long, humiliating argument, he “relented” and paid all of $18 for a stained glass mosaic mirror, which by all rights (I was told) should have sold for at least $50. But it was a lesson, and now if the same thing happened I’d smash it over his head with a hearty “oh damn, there goes my sale!” without a second thought.
June 4, 2012 at 12:17 pm
It is so nasty when they try to belittle your hard work so you give them a discount. You catch more flies with honey. Compliment me and I’ll probably give you a coupon or a friend break, insult me and I just won’t want to deal with you.
In some instances if they had spent the time working instead of sending countless emails or arguing with someone, they could have afforded the difference they’re asking for.
June 4, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Yep. At the same exact craft fair where Mr. Mosaic Mirror gave me his schtick, I encountered a couple who REALLY wanted to buy a set of my painted wine glasses. They spent ten minutes rummaging through their wallets and bags trying to scrape up the $38 I was asking. They came up a tenner short and asked me if I took credit cards (I didn’t). So I gave them the glasses for $28. I’d rather see them go for less to people who appreciated them and were willing to pay what I thought was a fair price, than to someone trying to catch a deal by convincing me my work was shite.
I definitely agree with you that seeing your shop through the buyers’ eyes is important. And I also think it would make a huge difference if buyers could take a moment to look at things from the sellers’ point of view.
I’m gonna leave before I break into song.
June 4, 2012 at 1:27 pm
I think its–unfortunately–what passes for a haggling culture in our society these days. Other cultures and traditions have whole rituals about what is appropriate for haggling. We dont really have that shared culture anymore, so people who want to haggle fall back on the lowest common behavioral denominators: putting someone on the defensive (which helps you dominate any conversation, not just business transactions. its instinctive.)
Ive seen it when I post some of the sublet rooms in my house for craigslist, people email to bitch that the price is too high for what theyre getting (said without even seeing the place) and im an idiot for posting it for that.
I dont mind, though, since its an easy way for me to see who would NOT be a great roommate.
June 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Exactly! My mom owns an apartment building and I do the rental work for her. My response to Craig’s List people like that is, “Well, we live in a market where over 52% of properties are rentals. I’m sure you’ll have no problem finding a suitable place to rent in your price range. Best of luck!” It just indicates someone who wouldn’t be happy in the building anyway.
June 4, 2012 at 1:06 pm
When people pull bullshit lines like that (and previously mentioned), it’s because they actually do want that item, they just don’t want to pay that much for it and think they can weasel out of it. Good for you for standing firm on that $18.
I’ve always liked the ones who say, “Pff, I could totally make that for way less.” My reply is “Then go ahead!”
June 4, 2012 at 11:15 pm
At a craft fair I went to when I was in middle school I was having a bit of sticker shock over the prices there and was sure I could make most of the things I wanted that I saw. (I’ve been a crafter since I could talk, AND this was at the height of the fabric painted sweatshirt days)
On one booth there was one of those little handmade wood, county-type signs that said “I know you can make it. But WILL you?” prominently placed. I used the money I’d saved up for the show to buy a pretty lamp from the lady that I could have made myself. And I walked away with a life long lesson about handcrafted items, selling them, and presumptuous customers that has served me well as both a buyer and a seller through my life.
June 4, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I got so sick of hearing things like that about my buttons that I just started telling people to go buy buttons at joannes that have been mass produced by a machine that doesn’t need to eat or pay bills. I, however, would like to be paid a living wage by the standards of this country, and if you want the OOAK item, then you get to pay the OOAK price. /rant
June 4, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Handmade mosaic mirrors? HOW VERY INTERESTING.
(Is there a non-sketchy way to say “Post your shop link so we can go drool”?)
June 5, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Well, I don’t know if it’s sketchy, but my Etsy shop link is in my username (I can’t seem to figure out how to change the link to my WePay shop URL). But please do come by and have a look! Just to let you know, though, I have no mosaic mirrors in there unfortunately–I can’t recoup the amount of labour I do on those or my stained glass panels to make them worth my while to list on Etsy. I do still sell them at craft fairs though.
(But haven’t you heard, if you want one you can buy the same exact thing at WalMart for a buck!)
June 4, 2012 at 5:22 pm
My friend makes beads at his factory. I get asked many times by people if they can buy wholesale from him — instead of buying them from me — but then they just say “oh, I just wanted a strand or two.” Even after I explain that you can get them from me cheaper, after you factor in shipping from him IF he was willing to sell single strands, they get all pissy over his minimum order quantity.
June 4, 2012 at 6:05 pm
I can do you one better (worse) – I once had someone ask me if I’d meet up with her in person and walk her through making my top selling piece step by step, because she wanted one but couldn’t afford it. How in blazes do you think that’s going to cost less?!?
June 4, 2012 at 6:14 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA, yeah, that’s why my mom offers workshops for $30 an hour + material costs.
June 5, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Wow. I did have someone purchase a bracelet from me at a fair, and while she was handing me the cash, say with a smirk, “I’m buying it so I can copy the design and make five of them for my kids!” I thought that was pretty obnoxious (although I’d kill to have had that sign that says “…but WILL you?” to have shoved down her throat). I didn’t even know how to respond to her except to shake my head and laugh, and she walked away angry at me for laughing at her. I figured it couldn’t get worse than that.
So I’m assuming you took her out to dinner, gave her free patterns and instructions, showed her how to implement the necessary tools and components, walked her through the process from start to finish, and then offered to buy from her at full retail price? That would have been the right thing to do, after all. Otherwise you’re just greedy and talentless with an overblown ego.
Yikes.
June 5, 2012 at 4:39 pm
“she wanted one but couldn’t afford it. How in blazes do you think that’s going to cost less?!?”
Oh, of course it would cost less. For her. Because she wouldn’t have had to pay for anything. What, you weren’t actually thinking of charging her to do any of that, were you? What kind of person ARE you?
June 4, 2012 at 11:21 am
I tried asking Intel to give me all the design specifications for one of their processors so I could just make it myself once. They just muttered something about “competitor sensitive information” and “what the fuck does he think we are? A charity?”. I must say, I found their attitudes unhelpful at best.
June 4, 2012 at 10:25 am
Hey! I have that fabric. I have no idea what I paid for it, either. I also have it in 2 other colors besides that. And no, I’m not selling it. I still haven’t decided what I’m making out of it yet and it’s only been 6 years.
Also, the answer to “how much fabric is in that?” in a convo like that is 259 yards.
June 4, 2012 at 10:42 am
Don’t forget the 47 spools of thread. That would be cheating.
June 4, 2012 at 10:27 am
I found the rest of the conversation…
June 4, 2012 at 10:29 am
Does this emoticon
) mean that the person has a double chin?
June 4, 2012 at 10:30 am
: ) )
June 4, 2012 at 10:50 am
A rich man’s wife, with a proper double chin!
June 4, 2012 at 11:23 am
It means there’s some extra face in that cunt face.
June 4, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Best photoshop ever!
June 4, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Oh, that is awesome….
June 4, 2012 at 10:28 am
What is it you cuntface?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EePtIkuy5lg
June 4, 2012 at 12:50 pm
How do you solve a problem like that?
June 4, 2012 at 3:27 pm
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
June 4, 2012 at 7:05 pm
There’s a movie called ‘Welcome to Whoop Whoop’ which makes fun of that very thing and I am ruined forever because of it. I am SO GLAD someone else posted about it. ^_^
June 4, 2012 at 10:28 am
I also think 50 bucks is totally reasonable for someone who is actually sitting at their sewing machine making stuff like this. I’m at the point where I won’t even turn that bitch on for less than 25 bucks, unless I’m making something for myself or a gift for someone.
June 4, 2012 at 11:20 am
You are 100% right.
June 4, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Would you be willing to mark that down to 50%?
June 4, 2012 at 10:28 am
And this is why I only sew for myself. A item’s value is not equal to the cost of materials. Cuntface, indeed.
June 4, 2012 at 10:38 am
Lawdy, the shit people talk behind the anonymity of a screen name. Funny how some people are more likely to check themselves when you have them within throat punching range.
June 4, 2012 at 11:37 am
Hi fellow mammal. You be one really cute badger. How about you slide over to my pond and I’ll teach you about how the furry creatures REALLY roll?
Oh, sorry. The anonymity of my screen name made me behave badly. I’m so sorry. But since you are a honey badger, I am sure you don’t give a shit. Or if you do, you’ll be over it soon.
Here’s some snake guts to nibble on :::throws:::
June 4, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Snake guts and fuzzy mammal shenanigans? I’ll bring the Vodka.
June 4, 2012 at 10:54 am
Looseycaboosy, is that you?!?
June 4, 2012 at 11:33 am
I dont think so.She didn’t report It to her nerd friends.
June 4, 2012 at 11:03 am
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June 4, 2012 at 12:50 pm
You obviously need to drink some more and plow through at least 50 posts before you post again.
June 4, 2012 at 1:09 pm
I’m just guessing, as I either missed the info or it’s not on here, that maybe the prospective buyer thought they were going to be clever and try and get “some friends” from here to help their vendetta. Or maybe the seller submitted this to show the crap she has to deal with from time to time. Either way, justice prevailing in large favor for the seller. DrapesofWrath FTW!
June 4, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Haha, I actually just posted it on the forums to share, and HK picked it up from there I think. Although now, I can’t find the thread, it may have been removed to protect the twatwaffles identity since it wasn’t blurred out in the original screenshots. Justice has prevailed indeed!
June 4, 2012 at 2:53 pm
There should a Beware These Buyers list. But then there would also need to be a Block Buyer button. Which means Etsy would need to give a care and THAT would mean they’d need to put down their mustache sticks and Earl Grey Area tea. And we all know by now it is NEVER going to happen.
Indeed why should a person threatening blackmail/extortion/any number of bad behaviors be called out? Too icky for Etsyland.
June 4, 2012 at 3:04 pm
I know right? When I reported her to etsy when this happened originally all they said was to not contact each other any further. Since she had only threatened to leave fraudulent feedback they couldn’t be budged to actually do anything.
June 4, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Shame on you.
June 4, 2012 at 3:28 pm
You may want to read some books on etiquette. It’s not usually acceptable to call someone a cuntface for being perfectly reasonable with you.
June 5, 2012 at 8:48 am
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June 5, 2012 at 4:53 pm
1) Sellers of handmade goods have the right to charge whatever they like for their work. There’s nothing “weird” about asking for money for handmade work. Whether or not buyers think sellers are overcharging or choose to pay the asking price is up to them. That’s called free will.
2) She was doing nothing shady with the pricing. She was completely forthcoming about it, and fair to boot. There was a 10% sale on AND a coupon, and the buyer was still bitching. And bitching. And still bitching. Again, the buyer had a choice to not purchase the item if s/he thought it wasn’t worth the price (see #1).
3) Even if the seller were being remotely “shady” about pricing, the buyer’s threat to file a false Paypal claim and have sockpuppet buyers leave bad feedback on spite crosses so many lines I quite honestly can’t see how to miss the point here.
4) Thumbs down does not equal hate. It means people disagree with you. Good grief.
June 4, 2012 at 3:33 pm
You’re not *supposed* to be anything. But you could read it and decide yourself.
June 4, 2012 at 11:06 am
I’m still trying to figure out why exactly the buyer is angry. She asked if they could knock the price off an on-sale item. No, it’s already on sale. Fair enough. So now she’s coming back to complain that a discounted item is still on sale? Isn’t that a good thing? What, does she feel liked to? If there’s one thing you learn in customer service, it’s that some people can never be satisfied and just NEED a reason to complain about anything. It gives them a rush or something to make others feel like inferior shit on their shoe.
June 4, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Short answer? Because they’re a twatwaffle.
June 4, 2012 at 11:07 am
Ah, yes. The pretzel logic of the enraged consumer. My job is collecting bills for medical services, and the funnies just keep on coming. My personal favorite is, “You didn’t find anything on my mammogram – why should I pay you $XX for that?” On what will become my last day in this job, I shall respond, “Fine. You’ve got cancer. Happy now? Pay up, you fucking cunt.” Oh, yeah, it’s like that. My mother went through over 6 years of chemo and died a shitty-ass death that no one deserves in spite of it. This is NOT the time, the place, or the fat,jealous loser to argue a $25 copay with. But I’m really a nice person …
June 4, 2012 at 12:21 pm
I once overheard in an Urgent Care waiting room some bloated man beast arguing that, “If the doctor can’t find out what’s wrong with me, I shouldn’t have to pay!” Because hypochondriacs wouldn’t bleed that system dry? Logic, that waste of oxygen had none.
June 4, 2012 at 5:23 pm
People do this to veterinarians ALL THE TIME. I feel your pain.
June 4, 2012 at 8:15 pm
But vets are so expensive! I mean, if my kitten weighs 1% of what I do, her care should be 1% of my cost, right?? CAN’T YOU GIVE ME A DISCOUNT FOR NO REASON???
June 4, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Seriously? My answer is always, “Thank goodness you didn’t find anything! Here’s every penny you deserve for looking at the bundle of claws and teeth I refer to as my cat!”
June 4, 2012 at 9:19 pm
I think it’s more of the frustration of having an animal with a problem (e.g. vomiting cat), and not being able to figure out the cause with routine tests. Though some people pay for routine bloodwork/etc *hoping* that it’ll be worth it by having something abnormal… ._.
June 5, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I was never so thrilled to shell out $100 to find out that my beloved tabby’s FIV test was negative after her encounter with a FIV+ stray.
June 4, 2012 at 12:28 pm
“Perfect for the cook who doesn’t.” That’s me! Finally, someone is realizing there are those of us out there who just want to look adorable while we open up the chinese takeout.
June 4, 2012 at 12:29 pm
This was supposed to go on Mandizzle’s comment, but one of the reasons I don’t cook is that I can’t read or count.
June 4, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Haha! Yes! Sounds like you have the same problem as my mother when it comes to recipes. And we do want everyone to look good while serving their takeout.
June 5, 2012 at 7:39 am
My clothes need protected while I scrape out the deli container of potato salad into a serving bowl so I can pretend to have made an effort.
Although last night our dinner was sandwiches from a food truck–that I brought home and served on tupperware lids. SOMEONE DO THE DISHES!!
June 4, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Anyone who has a $25 copay really should not be complaining. at all. ever.
June 4, 2012 at 1:56 pm
omfg, yet another reason I am glad my country has an alright Medicare system (except for dental, some meds and non-emergency ambulance rides, and the fact there is never enough hospital funding/beds/expertise).
Were you also forced into a life of crime a la “Breaking Bad” for your mother’s medical bills?
You should diagnose them with a case of either Asshat or Douchecanoe, then get them to pay up.
June 4, 2012 at 11:17 am
Holy crap, it pretty much made my day when I saw this on Regretsy just now. You FJLs are seriously the fucking best. Anybody here is welcome to use CFACE10 for 10% off any aprons in our shop: http://www.drapesofwrath.etsy.com
June 4, 2012 at 11:23 am
^
look!
IT’S THE SELLER! EVERYONE! SHE CAME TO VISIT US!!
June 4, 2012 at 11:26 am
Top o’ the morning cuntface! Your work is beautiful!
June 4, 2012 at 11:33 am
Thank you ever so much! I can’t thank all of you enough for all your kind comments.
I’m crying glitter tears of happiness over here!
June 4, 2012 at 11:32 am
Thank you for identifying yourself, Drapes!
June 4, 2012 at 11:34 am
No, thank you HK. I am the proudest FJL today.
June 4, 2012 at 11:39 am
10% off isn’t enough for me. Could I have 20% off? And a paw massage? If you say no, you are a douche canoe.
June 4, 2012 at 12:43 pm
How about a custom listing with a 50% twatwaffle tax included?
June 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm
You can has all the aprons, but only if you’re a real otter and agree to come be the Drapes of Wrath official otter secretary. >_>
June 4, 2012 at 11:38 am
CuntFace** is my band’s name…Crease and Desist NOW!
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**10% off band demo tapes between now and Flag Day ONLY
June 4, 2012 at 11:40 am
OMG your aprons are super adorable! Question: Are they intended to be actual cooking aprons, or more fashion aprons? (obiously not the sheer ones, of course, which are totes adorbz, btw) Like, would they be machine washable?
June 4, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Thank you!
The majority of them are machine washable, some of them we suggest hang drying though. The men’s aprons we’ve started making so the the shirt part can be taken out and washed separately since most of the suits are dry clean only. So really it just depends, but yes, the sheer ones and the chiffon ones are intended as more hostess type. 
June 4, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I wish I wasn’t so damn broke, I’d buy some shit just to leave you great feedback. I can’t stand people with an attitude like that. Farging jerks.
June 4, 2012 at 1:40 pm
It’s not much, but I favorited your shop and pinned one of your aprons to my pinterest boards. I’m so irritated on your behalf right now, and I want to do something to help.
June 4, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Well I appreciate it!
I’d much rather have non-buying fans like the nice people here than paying customers that call me a cuntface anyways.
June 4, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Does the hot blonde guy come WITH the apron???
June 4, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Haha, that’s my ex. Trust me; you don’t want him. Maybe if you had him stuffed and put on display. >:)
June 4, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Regretsy is all about bizarre taxidermy, so it might just work out!!
June 4, 2012 at 1:14 pm
As long as hes not done up like nut-flashing squirrel.
June 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Or a helicopter cat.
June 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Damn. This is my day to post comments that repeat exactly what the one right next to it says.
*stomps off in a huff*
June 4, 2012 at 3:28 pm
As long as he’s done up like nut-flashing squirrel.
FTFY
June 4, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Must have propellers and a remote control. He and the cat could have air battles.
June 4, 2012 at 12:16 pm
using the name calling as the discount code…fucking genius, and so is the shop name “drapes of wrath”!
June 4, 2012 at 10:21 pm
I love that name. I don’t even sew (yet) but I’m seething with jealousy for not thinking of it first.
June 4, 2012 at 2:32 pm
The real question is: do you make them big enough to fit fat, jealous losers or only reseller moms with “petite” figures?
June 4, 2012 at 3:17 pm
We make aprons for FJLs of ALL shapes and sizes!
June 4, 2012 at 3:36 pm
As one of the fatter of the Fat Jealous Losers, I want to thank you for offering plus-sizes!
June 4, 2012 at 5:30 pm
If I had a spare wad of cash, I would so go on a spree in your store. I’m not usually a fan of aprons, but those are just AWESOME!!!
June 5, 2012 at 11:01 am
Bet you never thought “Cuntface” would become a term of endearment.
Just bought that adorable black and red strawberry half apron from you. Thanks for the FJL discount!
June 4, 2012 at 11:22 am
CFACE10. I feel like I’m on the bridge of The Enterprise, issuing orders. Sulu – take us out at CFACE10.
Go FJL’s.
June 4, 2012 at 11:25 am
Those aprons are so damned gorgeous I’d feel compelled to wear another, much crappier, apron over them.
June 4, 2012 at 11:39 am
What a douchebag. I have run into these kinds before as well.
I make one of a kind costumes from vintage clothing and they can’t seem to get that no I don’t have them in every size.
One chick got insane with me because I couldn’t make a 34 inch bust fit her 40 dd’s, she just couldn’t grasp that it was the only one I had and I couldn’t make another JUST LIKE it to fit her. When I told her how much it would cost to fabricate it from scratch she got abusive and nasty. Of course Etsy did fuck all.
so even though my shit says ONE OF A KIND people are sure that’s a lie.
I Politely told her I was sorry I couldn’t make her happy and not to convo me again. She did, of course, just to tell me I was a lying asshole who had no talent. Really? Then why did you want to buy my costume?
June 4, 2012 at 11:52 am
That’s because Etsy has allowed “one of a kind handmade” equal “one of several thousand identical pieces of shit made of Indonesian boatwood.”
June 4, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Well, to be fair, you’re probably one of the few folks on Etsy who knows what One Of A Kind actually means.
Don’t misunderstand, I’m certainly not siding with Mizz Double D here by any stretch, but people throw that term around and then put “3 available” in the listing.
Etsy:OOAK :: eBay:RARE
June 4, 2012 at 1:45 pm
The correct response should be “You are very welcome dick breath”.
June 4, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Just so everyone knows, fabric NEVER goes on sale for .89 a yard at Joann’s . They have a pricing system that ends in 7s so the cheapest it would go would be .87 or .97 a yard.
All my summers wasted in college by working at Joann’s instead of partying in the carribiean are woth it to be able to call this person out as a liar.
June 4, 2012 at 3:41 pm
I have seen fabric on sale for .87¢ at JoAnns. It is usually located either near the cutting tables in a tiered bin marked “remnants” or towards the back of the store near the quilting cottons.
And even then it is usually burlap, or some hideous poly blend with an equally hideous pattern.
June 4, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Huh. And now I know
June 4, 2012 at 6:48 pm
They don’t even clearance the Halloween fabric anymore. Joann’s sells it year round now at full price.
June 4, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Drapes of Wrath should give a tutorial on “The Proper Way to Upcycle” to some of the poor souls featured on Regretsy. Although, I’m thinking there is no hope for those ones.
June 4, 2012 at 4:39 pm
OMG…..best……seller….EVER….kiss kiss cunty
June 4, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Kiss Kiss Cunty sounds like an 80s synth-pop band. Like Sigue Sigue Sputnik or some shit. But I kinda like it.
June 4, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Drapes, your stuff is beautiful, and no seamstress would quibble about the price. It takes time to sew things properly.
June 4, 2012 at 5:35 pm
People who say/type cuntface, wear aprons?
June 4, 2012 at 6:24 pm
we sure as fuck do, cuntface.
Can we officially make cuntface a term of affection around here?
June 4, 2012 at 6:36 pm
I will if you will, Cuntface.
June 4, 2012 at 7:12 pm
and God bless us, every Cuntface.
June 4, 2012 at 9:07 pm
We need masks.
June 4, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Someone on Etsy makes them. I’m sure of it.
June 4, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Would that be half or full face? Post a sewable image while I go rummage through the silk scraps…
June 4, 2012 at 5:48 pm
I am waiting for one question to be answered before I go buy myself one. Fuck it. It’s my birthday tomorrow and this is some ONE OF A FUCKING KIND actual handcrafted awesomeness.
June 4, 2012 at 6:25 pm
The answer is 42. Now go buy yourself an awesome apron.
June 4, 2012 at 9:48 pm
In my past life before the recession, I worked in jobs where I was pretty much isolated. I had bosses that didn’t understand what I did and left me alone, I didn’t have really any coworkers, and I was far away from customers. Then I believed in the basic goodness of humanity.
Some time after the recession and months of job hunting, my sister and I finally just decided to go into business ourselves, and sell our hand-made jewelry. We started on etsy and moved on to shows at anywhere that would have us. Now that I’m dealing with the public on a daily baises, and I’m not the humanist I used to be. I’ve had people try and cheat me in real life, and steal from me on etsy.
I kind of understand how wars get started now.
June 4, 2012 at 10:28 pm
“Feedback: 46, 100%”
Nice empty threats, cuntface
June 5, 2012 at 1:31 am
I only came to point out that threatening someone with bad reviews and calling them cuntface isn’t passive-aggressive, it’s just plain aggressive. Passive-aggressive is telling your mother in law that she looks nice today and then pissing in her coffeepot when she’s in the other room.
June 5, 2012 at 9:01 am
If ever there were a time for Bitter Butter Balls, this would be it.
June 6, 2012 at 3:58 pm
I’m going to have to bookmark that Etsy seller, you frockers bought the stuff I like before I could get to it.