LET’S JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE
Bit unsure of what I am looking at here.
If this is what love looks like, I’m sticking with lust. Where’s my merlot?!?
a) Snakeskin on hand-dyed tiger fur (to explain the price)
b) Butt-headed blind fellow with demonic heart-monster pet
c) Inspiration for my next hair style
…AND it’s BYO frame. I have a picture similar to this done by my niece last year when she was in fourth grade using Tempra paint from school.
I am also unsure. But I am so ashamed that the word Canadian is associated with this. Burning shame.
Um, that’s my daughter’s 1st grade art project. What is it doing here when is should be on the fridge between the monthly school lunch menu and the mailer for the next curb side charity pick-up.
Can someone photoshop this onto a fridge with other children’s school art projects?
I can’t believe with my own eyes that this artist drew this, what a Nimrod! Or Genius?
This artist is a fucking asshole! I can’t get over it.
it’s eyes! they’re boring into my soul!
just like Rick Astley’s!
ugh. apostrophe!/shakes fist.
Im ashamed that he is a second cousin
Who is? Rick Astley or the guy who swallowed some Rose Art crayons and shat out this monstrosity?
I thought Count was referring to apostrophe guy.
We “MAY” all agree. Then again we may not. The artist’s statement is legally sound.
What is inter-connected here? And what exactly is “shooting” about it? I don’t understand art too well.
Someone should be shooting at the artist for trying to pass off their kindergardener’s art as their own.
*kindergartener’s – duh
Hell, I’m gonna shoot the artist myself, for ripping off one of my son’s treasured preschool drawings. The nerve!
I think that the diagonal stripey stuff is meant to look woven, and that’s where the “interconnected” comes from. That or the angel is 80% Easter egg.
I think this description was created using Etsy’s patented Adjective Grab Bag Technique. You just start the paragraph off with some random words and keep going until you list the price.
“This mellow painting is lemony with connection! A flighty entrenchment, deeply and tenderly enrobed with marbled novelty. $148.”
The sad thing is, there is probably something with THAT EXACT DESCRIPTION already listed.
It’s probably something to do with being interconnected with the universe or some such wonderful concept crap that I’m in too cynical a mood to appreciate right now…I’m sure I’ll have a much better outlook after my medication.
You may have a better outlook on LIFE, but I can promise you, your meds will NOT improve your outlook on this “artwork.” I don’t think they’ve yet invented the pill that can do such a thing.
well, it doesn’t come in pill form, but you can smoke it.
I tried that. Still didn’t help.
Little stamp-like thingies might also be worth a try.
Maybe it’s interconnected because the face is really two faces, which are thus connected?
A ha! I see it now. That was subtle. I thought it was just a weird looking, poorly executed, blobby, asymmetrical, screwed up looking single face, but I was wrong about that.
Now I understand art!
I see it now – like He/she act at the Carnival
From the left side it’s She- the right side He both side awful
Oh, jonesaholic posted the same thing before me, just farther down. Derp
Why is it wearing half of Britney Spears’ face?
prolific? no wonder it must take 2 minutes to produce.
No kidding. I think this guy (or possibly kid. Could have used someone else’s photo) has no idea what “prolific” means. Probably just thought it sounded good.
He is an adult. – HK
I swear that looks just like something my 12 year old brought home from 6th grade art class. Angel of Mommy Has Enough of Your Art, Kid.
Now we see what happens when you watch Victor/Victoria on acid.
The more you know….
I was thinking Glen or Glenda…
It had to be said.
The Angel of Love looks like it will kill us all with its vacant eyes. Seriously reminiscent of Baby Jane.
the angel of love is a brown butthead with a sideways, bi-colored mullet and wrapped in a faux African print table runner?? no wonder I could never find him/her/it. I was looking for one with a single colored hairdo!
I thought the chin was a butt too. Then I realized it’s two people in profile … um … “hugging”.
Thank you, I couldn’t stop seeing a beret and long blonde hair combo… on a arse face.
Oh…two people hugging? I would never have figured that out because it doesn’t look like that…
oh good call, i just thought it was half man/half woman, i didn’t get that they were sideways… i see it now!
I thought it was a person wearing a hat and tacky dress. Boy was I off.
Next time my daughter hands me a DWG and I ask what it is and she says “what does it look like” can I scan it to you before I answer?
I thought it looked Hitler w/o mustache, with a blond wig half on. Like Hitler as a failed drag queen.
Then again, I looked at the wings and thought “that’s not how you draw goatse.”
An angel in a Kente cloth shooting rainbows out of her ass?
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah. I’m always hesitant to rag on someone who may very well be…special (read his profile). For that reason, April, I really appreciate your simple “agree to disagree.”
This was my first thought as well :/
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I may be completely out of line here, but I have several autistic relatives and the stiff pose/smile in his (teeny) profile pic coupled with the writing style and his art made me think “autism” right away. I mean, IDK. Ten foot pole etc. *whistles*
Yeah, I think this one is out of bounds.
Why do people always assume that someone with no talent is disabled?
This may be my least favorite thing that people do here. Please don’t imagine someone’s history and get weird about your own invention.
I read his profile and didnt get that he was “special” either.
I thought we were just judging the actual finished product here and not the person, who drew it. I didn’t assume the person was disabled.
I apologize. I don’t assume that people with no talent are disabled. I have lots of experience with people with no talent who aren’t disabled, and I also have experience with disabled people.
Apparently I majorly stuck my foot in my mouth and I’m sorry.
Well, let’s take a look at this description:
Our World in our Age of Static. Our Static Age. Like An Attic on a Stage.
“Our world in our age of static. Our stage of static. Our static age. I love living in our age of static, it is so peaceful today, like an attic on a stage.”
As someone who suffers from a mental illness and knows several who do, I’m not getting “mentally normal” vibes from this guy.
However, that does NOT mean his art is off-limits to critique. Many of the world’s greatest artists have been mentally ill or otherwise “abnormal” (for lack of a better word). So it’s not an excuse.
Perhaps this is just not his area of expertise? I can think of several dozen pretty smart engineering/science types who fit that profile to a T.
I didn’t — and I have a kid on the spectrum.
And, even if he does have a disability it doesn’t mean his efforts should be spared from the same evaluation criteria applied to everyone else.
If it’s crap, it’s crap.
Oh, and as to the photo — my kid with autism photographs beautifully; my kid without autism is the one with the stiff, uncomfortable smile.
Well bollocks and consternation, I didn’t see your post before replying. You said exactly what I meant to, just in a fifth of the space. Well put, and hear hear!
A favorite saying at our house: autism is a reason, not an excuse.
We can help him work around reasons; but he doesn’t get a pass because he’s autistic.
Autistic, schmistic… we call it January in Canada. The snow’s above the roofline, wolves are howling at the door and we ain’t been able to dig ourselves out since September. Our art reflects our suffering.
I hate to break it to you, but I am on the spectrum and there is nothing about anything this guy does that screams Autism. Let me walk you through it.
1- Bad grammar, even people with non-verbal Autism have excellent grammar. Folks with the disorder live by ridged well defined rules, like grammar and will follow them to the death.
“Here is a beautiful, glowing Angel of love which is inter-connected.” Ya This wasn’t written by someone on the spectrum.
2- The style of art it’s self is hardly Autistic. 2 things the spectrum is known for, order, and rigid rules. Had this piece been done by someone on the spectrum the waves of color going off to the sides would have been in exactly the same order.
3- In recent years it has become blatantly clear that even the most Autistic person on the spectrum is highly intelligent. Just incapable of communicating “normally”. I sincerely doubt they would be so stupid as to be upset about valid criticism.
yes I ranted deal with it.
My sister has autism and her grammar is atrocious. She also enjoys creating art and I don’t see any of your hallmarks in her work. I don’t think generalisations are helpful. I think people extrapolate from the autistic people in their lives, plus a little of the medical definition, and then say everyone with autism is that way. It’s just not true!
Thing is, they’re putting this up for sale, to the public, on the Internet. (For $60, no less.) If someone with any kind of disability (mental, physical, psychological, etc.) wants to try their hand at making a living (or just learning a trade), more power to them. That said, reality is a harsh mistress, and an armless person is probably never going to be a master carpenter.
Creating within one’s limitations is basically the definition of every artist. Every (sane) artist at some point has to come to terms with their limitations, whatever they may be, and try to operate within or around them. Failure to do so (or pretending that said limitations don’t exist / don’t apply) will only doom the artist to unrealized potential or unrealistic expectations.
TL;DR: Whether or not they are “special”, putting their work up for public view/sale entitles onlookers to evaluate the work based on quality vs. price without being forced to take “specialness” into account.
We have a lot of resources in my community for people with intellectual disabilities to engage in meaningful employment. One agency has an art program to help artists sell their work. I’ve seen some of it, and there are pieces that are very moving and beautiful. A sense of composition, a keen eye for details, and the passion needed to create a work is not limited to the “normal IQ and above” crowd. Art is a different skill – one may not have the cognition to complete long division, but one may be able to paint a canvas with an array of images that reflect emotions, the natural world, and whatever else someone can imagine.
Likewise, I have seen very young children (some as young as six) draw with techniques that rival that of a college-aged fine artist. Children in elementary school do not have dissimilar intellectual capacities as adults with intellectual disabilities. Again, art is not bound by verbal skills, logic, and problem solving.
A legally blind and severely autistic artist named Richard Wawro made this:
Color me impressed.
Whether or not the guy who made the “Angel of Love” is disabled, his work is not exempt from criticism.
The frame of MY choice.
All the better…
FOR ME TO POOP ON!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1000 likes!
Need more thumbs!!
every time i see your avatar, i get the song stuck in my head >_< lol
Well then, my evil plan is working out perfectly.
I just laughed so hard and for so long that my next door neighbor banged on the wall to make me shut up. Way to go, Triumph!
Print the text of Moby Dick on the toilet paper, and we’re golden!
What’s with ‘GreatCanadianDeal?’ Izzat a watermark? Regardless, it reflects poorly on us Canucks. Allow me to APOLOGIES for this, and offer you a complimentary blindfold.
Thank you! Can I have a cigarette too? (ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYV-qYeWPkk)
I dont think at $60 its a “Great Canadian Deal”
On behalf of Canada, I’d like to formally apologize for Celine Dion, Tom Green, and this. Hopefully, more positive Canadian contributions like “Kids in the Hall”, Eugene Levy, and insulin make up for the other stuff.
KITH, Eugene Levy, and Gordon Lightfoot wipe those others from my memory.
Nathan Fillion makes up for almost everything
You forgot Nickleback and Justin Beiber.
However Canada did give us William Shatner, Deadpool, and Forever Knight. So I at least forgive you.
Still doesn’t compare to the shit we in the US have churned out. Jersey Shore, Kevin Federline, Shawn Hannity, People of Walmart… *cries*
I’m sure we’ve given them things they enjoy though. Every country has it’s good and bad. For instance England has given us reality shows that we steal like What Not To Wear and groups like The Spice Girls, but it’s also given us Michael Crawford, Doctor Who, and Red Dwarf.
France gave us wine, we gave them Jerry Lewis.
Angel, not angle. Splendid.
This reminds me of stuff I’ve seen at the American Visionary Art Museum in Baltimore…full of works by self-taught mental patients and other obsessives. (Seriously, look them up when you’re in the area…)
Visionary art is too open-ended of a description–it could be used to describe the work of Achilles Rizzoli, which has a lot more going for it than a[n upcycled OOAK handcrafted decoupage decoration beadwork mosaic vintage retro midcentury modern shabby chic] mosaic-covered school bus.
That reminds me of
(1972, Kalervo Palsa, “Hommage a Strindberg”)
It’s clearly an Angel of Love, that rare crossbreed of an alcoholic butterfly-man and a RoseArt watercolor set. They can only mate under the Canadian Northern Lights.
They’re very shy (you’d be shy too if you had an external heart) and rarely seen by humans as their protective striped exoskeleton provides camouflage in their preferred habitat, the Goodwill furniture section.
I think I just had a flashback: is THAT why I don’t remember summer ’83?
i’m going to guess that the, uh… “artist” was trying to meld a man and woman together, hence the “inter connected” nonsense.
wow. i would definitely send this as a valentine’s gift… to my ex, to give him nightmares. creepy.
The angel of love has an emo haircut. Probably has on skinny jeans under that poncho with angel wings?
I think I understand it, but I am not familiar with the angel of love. The angel of love is a poorly drawn hipster?
Does that angel remind anyone else of…?
Perhaps it’s a little of this:
ARGGGG! Now it doesn’t want to work at all. First too bad, then doesn’t resize when I say so!
Just image La Roux here, and we’ll pretend this mishap never happened.
*big not bad
Computer god really f*ing hate me today.
Good story, dude. Thanks for Bogarting my post.
You guys realize the artist is a kid, right?
what makes you say that? the picture in the profile looks like an adult to me.
He looks like he’s older to me, too.
Not only not a kid, also not a street light.
His profile says “Please enjoy my art, a gift from me to you. I cherish my art, it makes everyone happy, cheerful and joyful, a positive experience for all.”
So if it’s a gift, why am I supposed to pay for it?
I don’t think his crayons are properly sharpened.
The gift is him allowing us the chance to buy it. We’re so lucky!
at times I’m embarrassed to be canadian…
Imagine Christmas wishes
Shooting out of your eyes,
A candy cake full of snow dreams,
A stocking full of smi-i-i-i-les.
It’s a Jordan Christmas!
I remember that – that video was raunchy!
God kept telling that angel that its face would stick that way. But did it listen? Noooooo.
I think this art has a lot of personality, and I can tell that a lot of love went in to it. however, not framing it is just outright lazy and unprofessional. some on, guy buy a black frame from Michael’s or something. At least flatten the thing.
He’s not a kid.
He’s not autistic.
He’s just untalented.
Let go of your pearls.
Even if he was, I’d still make fun of it. I’m already going to hell, why hold back?
I’m amazed at the influx of White Knights today, none of whom know what they’re talking about.
Leaping to strange conclusions based on a tiny profile picture and bad grammar is fucking bizarre.
The funny thing is, the assumptions being made here — supposedly on behalf of underaged/disabled people– are actually more insulting than anything in the post.
This is a piece of artwork made by an adult, non-mentally challenged person… who just happens to have no talent.
But somehow you guys assumed he must be a child and/or autistic. What does that say about you?
NEED SOME ALOE FOR THAT BURN DUDE
I don’t know if I agree that he’s definitely non-mentally challenged. I think he may have some sort of mental issue (whether an illness or something else), but I’m not basing that on the quality of the art. I’m basing it on the wording of the descriptions.
I posted this one above: “Our world in our age of static. Our stage of static. Our static age. I love living in our age of static, it is so peaceful today, like an attic on a stage.”
That doesn’t sound normal to me.
However, I wholeheartedly agree that there’s nothing at all wrong with critiquing the art. If you put it out there, you’re opening yourself up to other people’s opinions.
And I would also like to say that, as a moderately mentally ill person, I have VERY high standards for my creative endeavors and would never dream of using my illness as an excuse for poor work.
If anything, I think it gives me an edge. Extra creative energy from the bipolar disorder = not much sleep, but some great ideas.
I think it’s ill-advised to debate someone’s mental condition based on the way they word their Etsy listings.
He’s fully-functioning. Trust me.
If we did judge mental stability/competency by the wording of the Etsy profiles then we must assume 99% of the postings here come from special needs artists. 100% if you consider Craftardism a mental disorder.
If you don’t know him, Bronc, you don’t know that.
I’m not saying I know either. Just that it could go either way, and how a person writes can give you at least a little insight into that. This doesn’t strike me as the typical cupcakey way of describing things. It just sounds “off,” like I can tell when my boyfriend (schizophrenic) is just starting to get a little psychotic and needs some more meds.
It’s not enough to make me sure. Just enough to make me wonder, and also to question how anyone else could be sure.
But as I said, mental challenge or not, it doesn’t make him immune to criticism. So we definitely agree on that point.
well, if delusional qualifies as mentally challenged, i suppose he’s good to go.
Bronc, thanks for the message – I see what you’re saying now. Makes a lot more sense.
also, i think a distinction should be made between emotional disorders, and people who are “mentally challenged” i.e. ‘a bit slow,’ ‘touched,’ etc.
it’s kind of like saying, “i have the flu, i really sympathize with that guy who’s HIV positive” (an extreme analogy, but apt)
derp. that should have ended: love, type II rapid cycler >_>
Have to agree with Bronc & Helen on this. I don’t think unless the guy comes out and says something’s wrong with him we can really say what’s going on. I know a lot of people online say I show signs of being Autistic or having Aspergers but no doctor has ever found that in me IRL. Maybe he just wants to sound weird because he thinks that’ll sell more art or maybe he’s like me and can’t put things into written word well.
Yes, I agree with this. ^
That is, jonesaholic’s comment about emotional disorders vs. mental challenges.
Whatever else is going on, I think we can all agree he’s artistically challenged.
Can we clutch our pearls for a while that people think all disabled people must be horrible untalented?
“As an Artist, I retain all the rights to my artwork. NOT for resale.”
There are so many things I could say about this, but I think I’ll just let it speak for itself.
the nose is a penis
Meanwhile back in Canada, the evil Dr. Teufelkind’s plan came to fruition. Caption Maple Leaf and Syrup Girl laid battered and broken at his feet. Their feeble attempt at stopping him cost them everything. It was a great day for evil, except that although there was a hallucinogen a hundred times more powerful than pure LSD contaminating the nation’s water supply, no one seemed to notice.
“you will not find another one like this.”
And for that, I am thankful.
OK am I the only one that thinks this is a silver ass-print with brown testicles centered there? Have I been reading Regretsy too long? Because I totally see buttocks and bollocks there.
Perhaps you WERE the only one, but now that I’ve read your comment and looked at the image again, I can definitely say there are at least two of us.
I can never unsee it. Thanks SO much.
I knew there was a reason I was looking for goatse in this thing!!
Looks like *squints* an easter egg…*turns sideways* under wings made of fish scales… *gets a magnifying glass and looks closer* with cojoined twins coming out the top.
*uses magnifying glass and the sun to burn drawing*
As anyone with the slightest knowledge of the Phu-Khaery tribal belief system knows, this imagery contains many of their most sacred elements; the leathery wings of Ankultoor the Disruptor, colorful binding cloth of Holy Restraint and the dead eyes Azhat the Two-Faced Lord of the Underlife, to name but a few. As such, this deeply spiritual expression of the supernatural MUST NOT BE MOCKED!
You really have got a point there. I will ponder this for the next time I do not give full respect to poor graphic representations of made up supernatural beings. You’ve given us much to think about.
It’s… um… colorful?
There are too many words on this page for me to see if anyone has said this before. But, I’m pretty sure this drawing started out as a penis. Just look at that chin! If that doesn’t scream circumsized head, then I don’t know what does.
Ooh I like that idea… I think all the artists on here should all draw/paint/sculpt something starting with a penis! Contest time please, HK!
Something like this?
(Kalervo Palsa “American Look” 1976)
The only thing wrong with this guy is the ‘ability disconnect’. I live in a self proclaimed ‘artistic’ area, and see this CONSTANTLY.
There’s a cottage industry of vanity galleries just to reinforce belief amongst people who can’t accept that they actually have to work to improve.
That poor, poor, fly-man crossbreed! He has a necrotic tissue injury on his head, and the flesh eating bacteria have exposed his internal organs! Poor man.
Glowing and shooting?
OH MY GOD THE ZOMBIE CABBAGE PATCH KID IS RADIOACTIVE AND HAS A GUN
…though actually, that might make for a wholesome Holiday film.
This “artist” is a fucking cocksucking asshole!
I thought I was looking at a pair of very bizarre lungs with unfortunate spotting at first. Wtf.
How could this idiot call this art? I am disgusted with society! People need to get a life!
It looks like the “me gusta” face.
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