Yesterday, Today and Probably Tomorrow
All week long, Kathie Lee and Hoda Kotb have been hosting a contest on the Today Show, featuring “green” crafts on Etsy.
And because the rest of the world is not under the same restraints imposed by the Cupcake Elves of Happytown, the hosts of the Today show don’t have to praise everything that comes squirting out of the Etsy colon.
Apparently, Hoda and Kathie Lee thought that a $460 messenger bag on Etsy was a little steep, particularly since you have to provide your own materials.
Welcome to the real world, crafter! Beyond the gates of Etsyland lies a teeming burg called TRUTHTOWN, and you just got a day pass.
Needless to say, the reaction in the barnyard was predictable. All the hens came-a-clucking, puffing up their breasts and voicing their displeasure. Can a boycott be far behind? HODA PHONE!
But among the tear stained posts and above the din of tiny feet stamping, a familiar melody began to emerge:
Yes, you can call someone a “skank” for being rude. You can publicly post that someone is drunk on the job if you don’t like their comments. You can make fun of someone’s age and looks if they laugh at a skirt you didn’t even make. You can say anything you want in the Etsy forums, because crafting is considered protected speech.
Just don’t do this,
Because… well you know the rest.
- Entire clusterfuck here, if you have the energy
April 21, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I love “The Only Sane Person in the World” almost as much as I love you.
April 21, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Also…I just have to say..the made up avatars and seller names are brilliant.
(Ok..best to remove my face outta your ass now.)
April 21, 2011 at 4:53 pm
I like to imagine that all the comments Helen attributes to the Sane Person are actually made by the same person, and that really is her avatar.
April 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm
It’s the most PERFECT expression of incredulity. I wish it were my avatar.
April 21, 2011 at 5:16 pm
I sort of thought that it was. Now I’m sort of sad, I was such a fangirl of this imaginary person.
April 21, 2011 at 6:25 pm
I love how the baby even looks like a smug little fuck.
April 21, 2011 at 9:08 pm
TheOnlySanePersonInTheWorld’s avatar looks exactly like my friend Cat. I’m going to get a picture of her making that face and force her to comment on things using it.
Wackiness will be sure to ensue.
April 21, 2011 at 9:38 pm
I love I’m A Better Mother Than You, she reminds me of all those new moms who keep giving other new moms unsolicited advice and take parenting way too seriously.
April 24, 2011 at 8:58 am
And who think that the rest of the world gives a shit that they breastfeed exclusively.
April 22, 2011 at 1:50 am
makes me wonder if the ADMIN really looks like that or if they just post that pic to make everyone feel like they can’t be mad at that smiley young blonde face? (who doesn’t even look at you because that would be just too confrontational)
April 22, 2011 at 9:29 am
I am glad that avatar with the baby is made up.
April 22, 2011 at 9:31 am
AND, wtf with having to provide your own fireman’s jacket! That is the only part of that bag that makes it worth something
April 23, 2011 at 1:36 am
Right? Shit, if I had a better sewing machine, I could make that in an evening or two, while watching TV, and it wouldn’t cost anywhere near $400.
April 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm
I do too. I’d like to be her and I also imagine it’s the one normal non-cupcake-er in the forums.
April 21, 2011 at 4:59 pm
YES…I do too. “The Only Sane Person” is never different people to me…it’s always the same, sane person in my mind. Can’t help it.
April 21, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Now, you know damn well that if it was the same person each time, they would’ve been suspended and tossed into the cupcake pokey by now!
April 21, 2011 at 9:56 pm
@jecca
That’s my ambition! But I’m far too scared to really do it.
(I blame my parents.)
April 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm
I work with someone who looks almost exactly like The Only Sane Person in the World. It is my secret ninja goal to say something so profound that she gives me that look of incredulity, but thus far I have not been successful.
April 21, 2011 at 4:36 pm
There’s a place to make comments on Kathie Lee and Hoda’s show site.
April 21, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Yes! Good idea. Let’s all go over there and tell them what a bang up job they’re doing
April 21, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Church Lady, I can never tell when you’re being serious or being ironic.
Either way, I’m entertained.
April 21, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Oh good god, the circlejerk that is the Etsy forum site never ceases to amaze me.
April 21, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Indeed.
Makes me wonder how those people function irl.
April 21, 2011 at 6:36 pm
They don’t. That’s why they’re trying to sell crap on the internet.
April 21, 2011 at 6:21 pm
So true. And how appropos of you to use the term circlejerk-one of my faves and very underused compared to clusterfuck.
April 21, 2011 at 4:38 pm
I just feel sorry for whatever innocent model provided the stock photo they use for their knishutupwedontlikeyou-bot. The poor girl probably has no idea the kind of fuckhattery her face is being associated with.
April 21, 2011 at 5:07 pm
You mean that’s not really Knicky? Every time I see it I think ‘That chick has the most annoying face on earth.’
April 21, 2011 at 5:44 pm
She totally reminds me of this guy:
(but this may or many not be because I’ve been spending way too much time on reddit lately)
April 21, 2011 at 7:42 pm
fear not, it really is knicky. if you go to the thread and look at her reply, there she is!
April 21, 2011 at 8:17 pm
I have to disagree. This chick has the most annoying face on earth:
…and she’s got the fingerless gloves and dayglo plastic hair doodads to go with it!
April 21, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Is this what April was parodying on the famous pic of her saluting with the flip flop on her head?
April 21, 2011 at 9:20 pm
And I have to disagree with both of you, this face is the most annoying on earth:
I mean really, what is he doing there? Trying to look like Rembrandt if he were a modern day craftster by day and pimp by night? His face has been known to cause sterility, blindness, foaming diarrhea and anal leakage, by the way, so don’t stare too long at it.
April 21, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Thumbs up, only partly because I deeply admire the word “fuckhattery,” and the noun “fuckhatter” and verb “to fuckhat” that it implies.
April 21, 2011 at 10:00 pm
I heart you, EyeHeartSpiders.
April 21, 2011 at 4:38 pm
I would like to take that sane lady out for a coffee.
Oh, the fun we would have!
April 21, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Well, they seem to have a very loose definition of “calling out.”
Thank you for reminding me why I’ve stayed very far away from the Etsy forums.
April 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm
They’re only against calling out and meanness as it pertains to Etsy sellers. Everyone else is fair game, to put it mildly.
April 21, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Reminds me of Toon Town, from “Who Framed Roger Rabbit?”
Nothing bad ever happens, and when it does, it’s quickly brushed under the rug so the happiness can resume unfettered.
I love living in the real world.
April 21, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Happy happy joy joy
Happy happy joy joy
Joy joy happy happy..
Oh, excuse me for a minute, i have to tell someone they flagged an item incorrectly, be right back…
Back now!
Happy happy joy joy….
April 21, 2011 at 10:01 pm
“Who Framed Roger Rabbit?” is the best movie ever. I still have my sleeping bag from the movie that I got in 2nd grade. (I’m 29 now). Feel free to continue with more relevant discussions.
April 21, 2011 at 6:27 pm
type/delete
vodka&tonic
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vodka&tonic
I have a lot to learn if I am going to fit in here.
April 21, 2011 at 7:09 pm
@blackgermanshepard … if you know vodka&tonic I’d say you know enough to get started. You rock!
April 21, 2011 at 7:11 pm
I need to work on my snark, too.
April 21, 2011 at 8:27 pm
4 drinks later, albeit a bit diluted…
Despite my daily contention that I am not a cupcake, that I’ll be damned I ever sell on Etsy again, that I can both laugh with Regretsy and hate on the Today Show segment, I am beginning to realize, after re-reading the post, and these comments, how very sucked into the Etsy machine I still am. Either it’s my stomach turning or I feel another turn of the turning point coming on…
Regretsy, you are so spot on!
April 21, 2011 at 10:15 pm
@blackgermanshepherd
I saw your comments in a thread on Etsy. I was surprised you were with “them,” although I backed off of the “them vs. us” b.s. and read what you wrote. You made sense in a place that makes no sense whatsoever. You were the middle ground.
Nothing is all one or all the other.
It really is weird that Hoda and Kathy Lee said anything that could be construed as negative on their segment, which was supposed to be a feel-good-type segment on their show. When a product is introduced on one of these types of segments, we truly expect the hosts to be polite and say nice things no matter what. For them to try calling out the absurdity of these two item is, at the very least, unexpected if not entirely wrong for what they do as a living.
They were, on the other hand, absolutely right in what they said. That bag and that skirt were ludicrous as shown and as sold. No one of right or fashionable mind would be seen with those items in public.
April 21, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Clearly Hoda and Kathy Lee need to make their own Etsy shops. Then and only then will they be considered productive members of society and thus impervious to scrutiny.
…Oh my God, what if they did make Etsy accounts? What discussion could possibly be had? No one could critique seller or host and… and… I feel like this is akin to dividing by zero.
April 21, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Oh, my God; my head just imploded.
April 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Speaking as a crafter who has had things go wrong, I’d consider it my own too-bloody-bad fault if I posted the wrecks for sale and got called out on national TV for it.
The fireman’s bag is overpriced as a messenger bag. It is not overpriced if it is being used as a fundraiser for a fire department. Sorry, etsy-lovers, but the cold hard truth of the Walmart world is that you can’t get paid a fair (let alone a high) wage for craft work while there are people in the third world sewing bags as slaves. Maybe they should spend less time snarking on the age/appearance of TV hosts and do more to campaign for fair wages for everyone instead of just trying to snatch their piece of an elusive pie.
Now pardon me but I have to get back to my knitting that’s due at the end of a fundraising campaign in a couple of weeks. I make zero, the organization has already made $500 from these small knits.
April 21, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Yeah, what she said!
April 21, 2011 at 8:30 pm
I’m really glad someone else brought this up. Every time Regretsyers get upset about Etsy crap that was made overseas, it just sounds to me like everyone’s secretly anxious about foreign competition.
Over the past I don’t know, 20? years we let corporations ship all kinds of American manufacturing jobs overseas. We let places like Wal-Mart grow to the point where they forced small local shops out of business. We gave them government-funded incentives to trade with Chinese companies which flooded our markets with cheap crap produced at prices we couldn’t compete with anymore. We made this bed, people; now we have to lie in it, or like Kimberly said, fight for fair wages abroad.
I don’t blame anyone for wanting to make a living handcrafting things. I wish more Americans could support themselves doing it. Unfortunately, in this bizarro economic scenario we’ve come up with that means having to charge $460 for a bag, and having nobody to buy it because everyone’s out of work.
April 21, 2011 at 9:27 pm
But even as a handcrafted bag, from what I see, it’s still overpriced! I love bags, I have too many! I will buy bags that are too expensive and I will buy cheap ass things that I really had no business thinking would last longer than a month. But here is a recycled fireman’s jacket messenger bag… For what it is, for the target buyer, for the sane people in the world, that is just too much freaking money! Ive seen great quality, all leather bags in specialty shops sell for less… So that’s just a bag addict’s opinion, pass the booze!
April 21, 2011 at 9:44 pm
I’m gonna guess that the creator of the bag saw women going to purse parties and paying outrageous amounts for Coach and Vera Bradley bags and thought “I could make some serious cash here.” I mean, people pay SO much for designer bags that are no better than any other bag besides the tag.
(Not saying the Etsy bag wasn’t horrid, but I can see the thought process.)
April 21, 2011 at 10:06 pm
I used to work for a company that I could buy wholesale… I never paid more than $50 for a good quality LEATHER messenger laptop bag… we’re talking a $300 retail bag. The markup on that stuff is ridiculous.
April 21, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Which is why it really only works at that price if it’s something that’s raising awareness/funds for firefighters. It needs the firefighter angle to be sympathetic, and the only legitimate way to do that, IMO, is via fundraising. Using the firefighter thing without being fundraising is exploitation and even worse than being overpriced.
April 21, 2011 at 10:21 pm
The links previously provided around here to the shop in question show some really kick-ass bags. The one on the Today Show sucked big time. If it was really the same seller, that seller got screwed by too little time to create a decent bag or doesn’t provide a bag that lives up to it’s picture in her shop. I don’t know which.
There are people who are very willing to pay $450 for a messenger bag. They are also not usually willing to supply the materials and wait for that bag to be made.
April 21, 2011 at 11:03 pm
my fiance (who is a straight male) paid $500 for his messenger bag. but it is some snooty hipster designer from portland (where we’re from) and very well made. i think it actually is handmade, in portland. he’s had it for years and it’s still in good shape. but the bag on the show was not worth that much.
April 22, 2011 at 6:24 am
You have to give her credit, she’s got some serious balls to ask people to pay that much for a home made bag that you have to provided the materials for. The girls got Moxie!
I mean consider the big brass ones it takes to describe yourself on your website as follows: “She is a self taught sewing genius”! I mean, I’m a pretty good seamstress and I too am self taught, but even when I have a piece come out perfect, I would never even say something like that to myself, let alone proclaiming it for all to see on the interwebz machine.
I have tried to keep to myself about it for the most part, lol, and I don’t know her personally, but from everything I’ve seen of her on the web it seems like her ego is exploding all over the place. When they announce the winners this morning on Kathie Lee & Hoda I am sure that it’s going to reach critical mass and could possibly level a small town! LOL
April 22, 2011 at 7:41 am
Yeah, I do not get pricing that bag that high. My D&B leather purse (full hide leather, even) was under $200 at the outlet. Uh, thanks, I’ll pass on the almost $500 used-fabric bag….
April 22, 2011 at 8:23 am
Really well said Kimberly! I’ve just finished (1am Australia) re-sewing a dress from scratch because my first attempt went wrong – sometimes it just doesn’t work out! That doesn’t mean you can foist it on your customer and expect them to be happy.
I’ve long since given up on the Etsy forums – they are very ‘supportive’ without actually providing any real support whatsoever.
April 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Can I kick knickey in the teeth? Please? Then she can’t sport that fucking smile any more.
April 21, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Oh honey, set me up on a spindle and I’ll old-fashioned-kicking-machine on her ass with my tentacles.
April 22, 2011 at 12:41 am
@angel drawers – Please do.
April 21, 2011 at 4:42 pm
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April 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Well, these aren’t their real names and avatars. (But then again it wouldn’t be funny unless it was the kind of thing people actually do.)
April 21, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Check the asterisked italics at the bottom….
April 21, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Helen Killer made those up, dude!
But I completely agree with you about some parents being incredibly self-righteous about reproducing. My girlfriend stopped hanging out with me after she had her boy; she said I didn’t have my priorities straight and that she knew better because she is now a mother.
I was like, um hellooooo? I do too have priorities! I always make sure to tip my bartender well. BOOYAH!
April 21, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Are we allowed to mention other websites here? Because there is one called stfuparents that does a good job of calling out (yeah I said it) self-absorbed twits who think they invented parenthood and that their little darlings are God’s gift to creation.
April 21, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Oh, goodness, I love that site…
April 21, 2011 at 9:50 pm
That site is amazing. Unbelievable sometimes, but amazing nonetheless. I fear for the days when I am old and these kids are caring for me. (I know that every generation in the history of mankind has felt that way, but this generation is BAD!)
April 21, 2011 at 5:19 pm
She apparently thinks that she’s the only person who’s ever had a child and it’s created this miraculous knowledge. Should be interesting if she ever tried that on another parent before finding out their “with child” status.
April 21, 2011 at 5:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJRzBpFjJS8
April 21, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Must just be saying “hi, I’m a boob.” Just be glad that they don’t want to claim to being an ass. BTW, I hit the “up” thumb but it gave a negative; not sure what is going on.
April 21, 2011 at 4:59 pm
made up name and avatar but hilarious. Pay attention.
April 21, 2011 at 5:29 pm
OMFG Thank YOU! I don’t care if it’s a person’s real avatar on Etsy because it’s most likely a real one on some Mombie’s I’m-a-better-parent-than-you’ll-ever-wish-to-be site.
I have ZERO pictures of either of my kids latched onto my tit and I have NEVEEEEEEEEEER seen any picture in ANY family album doing so.
YOU’RE NOT BETTER THAN ANYONE CUZ YOU BREAST FED! SHUT THE FUCK UP!
/my rant
April 21, 2011 at 5:43 pm
yeah ’cause there’s only a few thousand years of women who did it before.
April 21, 2011 at 6:25 pm
*sigh*
I know =(
It makes me happy to be just a person. Just a person who happened to have sex *good sex, a lot of times* and have these awesome monsters to show for it.
So thank you for the little nudge =) I was getting a touch high n mighty.
April 21, 2011 at 7:59 pm
a few MILLION years. If we go back to when mammals first appeared, a few HUNDRED MILLION years.
April 24, 2011 at 9:04 am
The same thing with “at home births.” How the hell do they think women in under developed countries do it?
April 21, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Yeah, how about it?
April 21, 2011 at 4:42 pm
So – does the fireman coat/messenger bag seller make things in a “Smoke Free Home”?
Cause I don’t want my damn fireman coat bag smellin’ like SMOKE!!!
April 21, 2011 at 4:50 pm
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
April 21, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Oh, wow. I love how these same “crafters” who like to white knight for Etsy and all that it stands for (overpriced crap, Chinese resellers, cat skull fascinators and general bullshittery) are the same ones who lampoon anyone who don’t agree with them. “You don’t like that we want you to pay $1000 for some spunk on a canvas? Well, you’re a grizzled old drunk… And you’re mean”.
Also, people should think of an insult to throw around other than “drunk”. It’s not an insult, it’s a badge of honor.
April 21, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Exactly. Own your hypocrisy. There isn’t a human that isn’t full of it.
April 21, 2011 at 7:26 pm
I’m totally going to get a shirt made now that says “Stay Calm and Own Your Hypocrisy”. Color me inspired!
April 21, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Shouldn’t it say “Stay Drunk?”
April 21, 2011 at 5:49 pm
You can cure drunk if you wanted to, but they sure as hell can’t cure moronic! I get angry every time April posts about etsy forums – can we go back to making fun of things now?
April 21, 2011 at 10:37 pm
It all makes fun of Etsy, which needs to be made fun of. But I understand where you’re coming from. Forum discussions and the whole lactivism thing pushes buttons I didn’t even know I had. I get angry over these topics all over again every time they’re mentioned.
April 21, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Fuck Etsy admin. They’re a bunch of ass hats.
April 21, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Shhh, you’ll give them Fashion Ideas.
April 21, 2011 at 5:43 pm
god, i so want an ass hat now! XD
April 21, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Ruched, please.
April 22, 2011 at 12:41 am
Said in dream voice…
…ass fascinators!
Attacked to a C-string. On the front page of Etsy soon.
Seriously, we should think up phony trends like glingers and see how many craftards jump on tomorrow.
April 22, 2011 at 12:42 am
Attached. Although attacked is so much funnier.
April 21, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Those drunk skanky whorebeyotch assholes should die in a fire for talking nasty about Etsy crafters. Etsy is about love and acceptance goddamit! Good fucking manners are enforced at all times.
April 21, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Crap crap crap I accidentally clicked the thumbs down. I liked this comment, I really did!
April 21, 2011 at 5:41 pm
it’s alright, I thumbed up for you.
April 21, 2011 at 6:59 pm
You forgot to mention their “saggy vaginas” – it’s an etsy classic.
April 21, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Not only that, but then I’ll make messenger bags from all the coats worn by all the firemen who tried to save their lives and I’ll make a LOT of money!
April 21, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Yes, it is certainly important to have good manners while fucking.
April 21, 2011 at 4:49 pm
you know when you have those dreams where you’re surrounded by people, and you’re trying to talk and you yell and scream and stamp your feet and no one notices you at all? that’s how i feel when i read shit like that. it’s like… you could try to tell them how deluded and out of touch with reality they all are, but they just keep going.
April 21, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Don’t you kind of wish you had a big sharp sword in those dreams?
April 21, 2011 at 7:11 pm
and a horse, preferably named goliath.
(totally playing off your name, that’s a great movie)
April 21, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Yeah, I have those dreams. They alternate with the search for a clean toilet amidst a sea of overflowing, plugged-up broken pots.
According to my psy– I mean what I’ve read, both are the same “frustration dream.”
When dealing with actual Etsians, the toilet version is probably more appropriate.
April 21, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Oh my god, I have that toilet dream all the time. I usually finally wake up realizing I reeeeeally have to go.
April 21, 2011 at 10:44 pm
I usually wake up realizing I reeeeeeally have gone.
April 22, 2011 at 8:57 am
In mine it’s not that the toilets are dirty, it’s that they’re all in public places. Like the middle of a shopping mall with no cubicle.
April 22, 2011 at 5:31 pm
YES, manybellsdown, me too!
Or sometimes everything about the bathroom itself is fine, but my pants get stuck on my hips and I can’t pull them down.
April 24, 2011 at 9:07 am
My dreams involve actually finding a toilet and not being able to relax enough to go!
April 21, 2011 at 4:49 pm
I thought those were the most sober comments Kathy Lee ever made!
April 21, 2011 at 4:50 pm
sober ^sounding.
April 21, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Imagine the comments she would’ve made at her most drunk.
Note: I’m a firm believer that one should never sound sober.
April 21, 2011 at 5:52 pm
You know, if her producers got her smashed and paraded more etsy crap for her to comment on… I’d watch. Quick, start the email campaign!
April 21, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Hey! Hey! Hey!
That’s what WE do here! Screw Kathy Lee!
April 22, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Tangent: your avatar looks like Sam the Eagle from The Muppet Show. To me, anyway.
April 21, 2011 at 5:06 pm
agreed!
April 21, 2011 at 4:50 pm
LMAO!! that messenger bag look like it was made out of spongebob!
April 21, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I powered my way through one of the threads, and I couldn’t take it anymore. Two voices of reason speak up above the outrage, and they are instantly slammed by cupcakers and told what horrible people they are, followed by cries for the admin to come close the thread because individuals are being ‘called out’. Jesus fucking christ on a cracker. You can’t slam someone’s precious crafting, but you can slam people who pipe up and call it how they see it? Fuck you and your hypocrisy.
April 21, 2011 at 5:52 pm
What bothers me most is that as soon as someone “calls out” another person the entire thread is immediately closed so you can’t explain further, defend your comments or agree with the Only Other Sane Person in the World.
April 21, 2011 at 5:53 pm
You know what uniporn does to cupcakes, though… They’ll get it eventually
April 21, 2011 at 10:49 pm
That damn spike….
April 21, 2011 at 8:40 pm
I started reading the threads also…but I conceded that I really did not have the energy…lol I can’t imagine caring so much about something that matter so little in the grand scheme of things…
April 22, 2011 at 9:12 am
I’ve come to think of this behavior as “posse-ing” – as in “my posse has my back.” Usually I see it on certain types of women’s blogs (though majority-male blog communities have their own dysfunctions).
Everyone always, always is supportive of the blogger, no matter what stupid thing she does, and they are quick to pounce viciously on anyone who disagrees even slightly. And if someone outside their little community attacks their idol, they stream out in a rabid pack and go ballistic on that person.
Substitute Etsy for the blogger, and there you go.
However, one thing that’s different is that in most posse situations the blogger just sits back and lets the posse foam; Etsy mods join in the pack attack, because, honestly, they are part of it.
Men can be foul and nasty beyond belief in their online playgrounds too, but usually they’re not wrapping it in hearts and rainbows and fluffy kitties. And pink. And bouncy animations.
(Yay for Regretsy.)
April 21, 2011 at 4:56 pm
I have never loved Kathie Lee and Hoda as much as I do right now. Do you suppose we could get them to do video commentaries on Regretsy items?
April 21, 2011 at 4:59 pm
*Shudder*
April 21, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Again I say fuck them. We* started it!!!
*When I say “we,” I mean April/Helen and those who were here at the beginning. I am not implying that I personally started anything. Although I’ll be here to finish it, if necessary.
April 21, 2011 at 4:58 pm
watch out! or they might shut down your whole site for “calling out!”
April 21, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Even the term “calling out” is a happy crappy euphemism. Double standards aside, they can’t even say someone is being rude if that’s what they mean?
Tsk, what you just said is not nice. Ooh, I am just a weeny bit annoyed. Look at me cross my arms, shake my head and close this thread. There. You won’t be naughty again I am sure. I’m off now for a nice cup of tea and a little poodle clipping.
April 22, 2011 at 9:14 am
Especially since calling out manipulative passive-aggressive varieties of trolls is the only good way of dealing with them. A lot of shit gets overlooked in those threads because everyone’s afraid to say the naked emperor is wagging his wang around.
April 21, 2011 at 5:09 pm
On one of the threads, someone said “Kathie Lee is the new Regretsy.”
I’m happy with the old one.
April 21, 2011 at 5:11 pm
So, two voices of reason and they both have pretty kickass shops as well.
I hereby command you all to go to
http://www.etsy.com/shop/helloheath
and
http://www.etsy.com/shop/ZebrasAndBubblegum
and buy some shit, these guys deserve a reward for having to put up with all of that…
April 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Ha ha – Kinda funny ZebrasAndBubblegum was on regretsy for the trio of work cans
http://www.etsy.com/listing/68954219/vintage-trio-of-very-worn-and-rusty-cans
April 21, 2011 at 5:35 pm
wow, i have the exact same squirrel nut dish/container thing that she has for sale in her shop, we keep it on the counter to feed the squirrels. i, however, only paid $2 for it at good will.
April 21, 2011 at 5:57 pm
She was a great sport about it too.
April 21, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Did they get called “sockpuppets?” That’s usually how dissension is dealt with over in Unicornville.
April 21, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Unicornville sounds like a game on Facebook.
April 21, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Oh gawd Zynga will probably be launching UnicornVille anytime now!
April 22, 2011 at 12:13 am
I love it!
April 22, 2011 at 12:23 am
Somebody posted a link to a Neiman Marcus designer leather bag Made in Italy, within a discussion about the fireman messenger bag; I lost track of the link/thread. Could someone point me back to it?
April 21, 2011 at 7:24 pm
I got called a sockpuppet before on Etsy forums. Being called out like that hurt my feelings so much that I could craft neither a diaper cake nor a pipe cleaner dog until I masturbated myself with ice cream all better.
April 21, 2011 at 6:16 pm
I have that exact same Train Case!
April 21, 2011 at 6:18 pm
another anti-ass hat
http://www.etsy.com/shop/potatopotato
April 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Octopins!! *squeee*
http://www.etsy.com/listing/62368745/octopins
April 21, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Ooo, he even has a “pick any four” option, and it’s only $5.50 with shipping. Getting some pins! I want a cuttlefish and a skull and an anatomical heart and a spider!
April 21, 2011 at 11:39 pm
i had to make an account to thank you for the link! almost 1000 views yesterday and 27 hearts!
:hug:
April 22, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Thank you! To go and favorite these sellers, I girded my loins and renewed my Etsy password.
(I could not brave the forum discussion myself, so it was impossible to find the voices of reason without your kind assistance.)
April 22, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Would also like to say thanks for posting the link and posting my comment! Regretsy has been good to me!
Now off to slaughter some kittens or something.
April 21, 2011 at 5:12 pm
So, to save their reputations and avoid mean-people-induced suicide, Kathy Lee and Hoda should open Etsy stores, then demand that Etsyers take back all that mean calling-out.
April 21, 2011 at 5:53 pm
It’s the PERFECT out to this situation. Then Knickey would be forced to take down all the boards
insulting themcalling them out.April 21, 2011 at 11:00 pm
The thing I love about how the Admins shut down these threads is that they stop people from commenting further, but the thread remains up to still allow people to read what had been written up to that point.
How stupid is that?
April 21, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Is it just me, or were they’re comments really not that bad? I remember them saying positive things about the items. The model with the skirt is the one who responded with a hesitant “..maybe?” when asked if she would wear the skirt out. I don’t see them acting any differently about these items then they might with any other ones.
April 21, 2011 at 5:14 pm
By “them” I mean The Today Show.
April 21, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Yeah, they weren’t really rude about it or anything and it did seem like they were holding back worse. I didn’t think it was *that* bad but I guess the Etsy hoard is way, way, way sensitive.
April 21, 2011 at 5:24 pm
“Do you like it, Chris?”
“Yes! It’s very useful.”
“It’s kinda pricey, though, right?”
“It’s $460 at mumblemumble dot com.”
“What? Wow!”
“Yeah, it’s a little pricey, but then again…”
…and a discussion of how “green” it is as a recycled object.
“…made of recycled sweaters…”
“Oh, that looks CUTE on you!”
“…that’s actually really adorable!”
“That looks cute. Would you ever wear that in real life?”
“Um, maybe.”
Yeah, not so unilaterally critical as the butthurt outcry wants it to be to justify their martyrdom to the Matrons of Mean.
April 21, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Hold on there, missy, that sounds like rational thinking. In EtsyForumLand, anything less than the most unwarranted Enthusiastic, slobbering Praise is Obviously a slam (Unless you’re on TV, famous, or do this on a professional level, then you know, you get what you deserve).
April 21, 2011 at 10:14 pm
what else is sad is all this uproar is over ONE SEGMENT… they have been having these segments all week… some of the stuff they featured was really cool… I think the finals are Friday
April 21, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I ♥ Hoda and I’m beginning to dislike Kathie Lee a little tiny bit less with each passing day. Maybe it’s because I’m old just like those two “skanky, wrinked [sic] beyotches.” Also, I like wine, too.
April 21, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Rum and Coke, ftw!
April 21, 2011 at 5:16 pm
In a shameless bit of self promotion, and because this is, sadly, the crowning achievement of my life, here is a clip of me on Kathie Lee and Hoda. I am the one with the pony tail:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/29054368
April 21, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Oops- herp a derp. Here it is.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/3041426/vp/41474742#41474742
April 21, 2011 at 7:55 pm
That’s ok. I never mind looking at Isaiah Mustafa….
April 21, 2011 at 9:15 pm
That’s pretty cool how they did that, I started getting spider veins in my early teens and someday I may do something about them. Or more than likely I’ll buy another spinning wheel and a few pounds of wool.
What I want to know is why they’re playing the soundtrack to ‘Little Miss Sunshine’ during the shots of the procedure…
April 21, 2011 at 5:17 pm
That’s some class hypocrisy on Etsy!
April 21, 2011 at 5:17 pm
It’s interesting how those “artisans” would complain about how apparently mean Regretsy is, yet they themselves would go call human beings skanky, idiots, drunk, old, assholes and encourage them to commit suicide.
April 21, 2011 at 5:30 pm
I think it’s projection. :S You know, like the commenters on assorted websites who complain about how uncivil xx is, and then wish bloody death upon them? The internet is full of projection, I think…
April 21, 2011 at 6:42 pm
But you could just be projecting…
April 23, 2011 at 9:26 am
Heheh, maybe…
April 21, 2011 at 6:58 pm
In all fairness, I’m certain Hoda is going to commit violent seppuka because some skilled artisan in the Etsy forum stopped peddling Tupperware for long enough to mash her fat fingers into a hackneyed insult. LOL j/k
April 21, 2011 at 9:24 pm
etsy forums: worse than most high school experiences
April 21, 2011 at 10:20 pm
That was the funniest thing I have ever read. 3 pts for Gryffindor.
April 21, 2011 at 5:22 pm
people don’t want to be told the truth, they want a comforting lie, and have the capacity to believe the most Fucked-Up Nonsense imaginable.. No honey, those people are just Crazy, or drunk, or something — people don’t want reasonably priced utilitarian objects, $450 is a fine price, and Why would they mind hunting down their own materials? That skirt would be flattering on just about any teen-aged, size 0 model and must match with Something, somewhere, I’m sure. Women don’t want age-appropriate, well-fitting styles!
April 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm
The maker of the skirt said it looked bad because the model had it on sideways.
April 21, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Tell you a lot about the craftsmanship if wardrobe on a major T.V. show can’t figure out how to put on your garment.
April 21, 2011 at 8:03 pm
How could you tell??
April 21, 2011 at 9:42 pm
because she said the embroidery was supposed to be in the center front?
April 21, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Now now, children. Can’t go calling out, you know! Got to keep things cupcake and play nice around here!
I’m going to go ahead and wrap this up now.
…Oh, you mean I don’t actually have Magical Cupcake Powers? SHUT UP! LET ME PRETEND! ;_;
April 21, 2011 at 5:23 pm
haha love the icons
April 21, 2011 at 5:24 pm
While reading some of the “those poor sellers!” comments over yonder, I found one that struck me as odd. “Don’t they know how expensive a fireman’s coat IS?” I thought it was a contest for recycling/upcycling… not buying something new and turning it into something else! I must admit, it was great seeing what the Today Show found after scouring etsy for green wear. THOSE were the good choices?!
April 21, 2011 at 5:44 pm
You have to provide her with the coat if you want the bag, or thats how I understood it from her website.
April 21, 2011 at 8:07 pm
I’m sorry, but that’s insane. I make messenger bags from fabric I make myself from 2″ strips of fabric, and leather and hardware. The first one, when I was figuring out the pattern took me maybe (MAYBE) 10 hours to make. I was nervous charging $250 for it.
I think you could get 2 or 3 bags out of one fireman’s coat.
April 21, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Thank you, I now i have a 34 page-hysterical-forum-thread to enjoy with my cocktail!
April 21, 2011 at 5:28 pm
What kind of cocktail? I’m trying to branch out and try more fancy drinks than Mike’s Hard Lemonade.
April 21, 2011 at 5:32 pm
dude, try a classic gin martini. if the gin and vermouth are REALLY cold (put that shit in your freezer) it is really, really good. and it will get you hammered. classic cocktails don’t fuck around.
fuck, now I really want a martini.
April 21, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Ditto, but screw the vermouth.
April 21, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Am I the only one who feels drinking vermouth is like licking a magic marker?
April 21, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Ditto, but screw the vermouth and the gin. You can skip the martini glass too. Just fill a great big red plastic party cup with vodka, and you’re golden. If you’re feeling fancy, toss in a chunk of lime. Now that’s classic.
April 21, 2011 at 10:19 pm
I like my modern twist on an oldie… I drink raspberry vodka and club soda… you can mix it really strong and it still tastes awesome.
Oh, and if you use vanilla vodka it tastes just like cream soda.
April 21, 2011 at 5:26 pm
It’s extremely HILARIOUS how those Etsyians are saying how hypocritical Hoda and Kathie Lee are because they probably buy bags from reputable, legendary, well-known, been around forever designers (not that I’m a designer whore or anyhing) BUT WOULDN’T buy that hideous messenger bag for 10 times it’s actually worth and will probably fall apart in a week, unlike designer bags like Coach last forever (so I’ve heard). I have never been able to afford designer labels nor will I expect to be in the near future. Also, I’m a little drunk on wine right now, that’s why this is so long. sorry.
April 21, 2011 at 6:32 pm
And there are many Coach purses for well under $400 dollars!
April 21, 2011 at 6:33 pm
aww frack, pardon the $/dollar redundancy
April 22, 2011 at 2:22 pm
You can say “fuck” here. We don’t mind.
April 21, 2011 at 7:16 pm
I thought that was funny, too. Mass-produced and made under possibly questionable circumstances or no, the Etsyians seriously want to compare GUCCI to UNKNOWNETSYPERSON. A designer item (with a reputation spanning decades) to an object of utility made out of a fireman’s coat (Hooray for cancer-causing asbestos!) and once again, by someone who isn’t known. Clearly they have a disconnect between the world of fashion and the world of upcycling. Two different things; can’t make that comparison. And a lot of those designer brands are KNOWN for their quality, sturdiness, etc.
That being said, there’s no way in hell I’d drop the price for a Gucci, Coach, Berken or what-have-you bag – and I sure as hell wouldn’t drop the price for a firefighter coat messenger bag, either (even though I thought it was pretty kick-ass).
April 23, 2011 at 2:42 am
Thank you, someone else who actually liked the firefighter bag. I would totally wear/carry that and put my laptop in it – it’s much nicer-looking than some other messenger bags I’ve had.
But I wouldn’t pay $450 for it.
April 21, 2011 at 8:09 pm
I have a coach purse that cost me 250 dollars. It’s 100% leather and I beat the crap out of it and it’s awesome. I justified it because I spent 25 bucks on my last purse and I had it for 10 years.
My sister-in-law got my mother’s Coach bag after mom died and I think that one was about 20 years old…
April 24, 2011 at 3:56 pm
I have a Coach bag I bought at a rummage sale for twelve bucks. It’s obviously been around a while but is still in wonderful condition. With minor wear (but leather distresses well), this thing will last forever. It’s a nice, classic design too. I’d never buy one retail but I see why these bags are respected.
April 21, 2011 at 5:27 pm
http://www.etsy.com/teams/7718/site-help/discuss/6865002/
April 21, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Oh, that’s gonna be a good one!
Marking!
April 21, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Glad you approve. I couldn’t resist once I saw the reason for shutting down that thread.
April 21, 2011 at 8:17 pm
From page 14 of that thread – “1: the members here who think it’s ok to critique the items – and ergo the sellers who made them”
That’s the problem in a nutshell: Etsians think that a critique of an item is a personal attack on the seller herself. I wish I could fly over them in a crop duster and spray the region with a does of “grow the fuck up”
April 22, 2011 at 8:25 am
The little crybabies would have a nervous breakdown just setting foot in an art school.
April 21, 2011 at 8:27 pm
I love the replaced names and the avatar of the only sane person in the world reminds me of the Onion “man in the street” quotes.
Hilllllllarious!
Thank you!!!
April 22, 2011 at 4:24 am
LMFAO Michelle’cupcakebrigae’the admin tried to shut it down and FAILED!! We have proof ladies and gentlemen – the admins really have no idea what they are doing. XD
April 21, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Don’t look now but it’s starting to get real snarky in there:)
April 21, 2011 at 7:05 pm
snarkilicious!
April 21, 2011 at 8:17 pm
snarkappointing
April 21, 2011 at 7:44 pm
And they mentioned Regretsy! Some good stuff in that thread.
April 21, 2011 at 8:39 pm
AWWW. they closed it
April 21, 2011 at 8:46 pm
It took them two tries to do it!
April 21, 2011 at 8:57 pm
The Heymichelle admin… is it just a coincidence she’s saluting with a fingerless glove? All she’s missing is the flip-flop hat and the mustache!
April 21, 2011 at 5:30 pm
The cupcake brigade is pretty much insane, and the hypocrisy/insanity of etsy is pretty much why I abandoned my shop in the first place. Fuck the entire lot. You can’t call someone on their shit, but they can call someone anything they like because someone doesn’t like their foo-foo glitter glued cat skull? In the words of Wayne Campbell, “she-yeah, right!”
April 21, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Funny how I see some neg nancy crossover to cupcake brigade over there…but maybe I didn’t read it right.
April 21, 2011 at 5:30 pm
I love how, as soon as we’re insulting women, the only things people can say are variations of “you’re an old slut.”
Says a lot about our culture, eh?
April 21, 2011 at 6:35 pm
I’d say it’s more a reflection on the unintelligent sluts trying to scrape together the brain cells to formulate an insult. Says a lot about those goddesses, eh?
April 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Etsy’s policies are so frustrating, and really counter-productive. Leads me to wonder if all they do besides monitor Etsy forums is sit in a circle, sniff patchouli, and discuss their dream journals.
April 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm
fucking love you regretsy.
April 21, 2011 at 5:42 pm
April 21, 2011 at 5:48 pm
I really fucking love you regretsy! So much I wanna hump a fucking regretsy leg.
better?
wait…DID I JUST GET CALLED OUT? my bad.
April 21, 2011 at 9:46 pm
*Falls out of chair laughing*
*But in a hostile way*
April 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm
I’m sorry. That skirt was as bad as the infamous tie skirt in From Justin to Kelly without the hideously bad purple lipstick to turn it into camp. The fireman messenger bag was a cool design, but it can also be made for significantly less than that by using material that never went through a fire and doesn’t smell like chemicals and burnt toast.
Kathy Lee and Hoda said nothing bad about those items. “That’s a little pricey” is not an insult. “That looks cute” is definitely not an insult. They were making fun of the interns/pas/behind the scenes employees who were acting really awkward in front of the camera.
April 21, 2011 at 6:36 pm
They didn’t have to say anything. Their expressions said it all.
April 21, 2011 at 7:35 pm
The only thing I can think of that may have been “negative” really was the comment about how they wouldn’t pay that much for it because it’s cloth and it will disintegrate. That comment was a little odd, but still funny!
But seriously, folks, that was maybe the ONLY thing that was verging on “not nice.” Yeah, maybe it wasn’t super appropriate to comment on the pricing in an item that was in the contest (although it’s not like it’s being given away as a prize IN a contest, so maybe it’s not inappropriate at all!) but all the same, it’s not like they honestly slagged a seller on national television.
April 21, 2011 at 5:34 pm
I’m an etsy seller, and I was actually verbally abused and run into the ground by a woman in one of the Etsy teams I was a member of who just knitted a million copies of the same hat that she would charge $60 for because I didn’t charge outrageous prices for my items. lol Sewing is my hobby, and if it cost me $3 to make an item that I would have made anyway for the fun of it, I’m NOT going to sell it for $300. She told me that no one will buy my stuff because by pricing it at $50 I am telling people that my stuff is shit and not worth the high prices. lol. I just feel bad about raping someone on the price of something like that. We eventually had it out and I left the group because she was one of those bully women where everyone agrees with her for fear she’ll turn on them. She said I should figure my prices by doubling my cost, then figuring out my time cost (and that her’s is about $80 and hour) then figure out how long it took me times the amount per hour and then TRIPLE it.
April 21, 2011 at 5:37 pm
I just can’t do that and still live with myself. lol
I am actually one of the ten finalists in this Etsy contest. The 6 people who had their actual items shown on the show were contacted 2 days before the contest ended and were asked to send samples. Myself and another finalist inquired into this with Universal/NBC and were told that the producers were given a list of the projects and they picked the ones they liked and that it was a total coincidense that they happened to pick 6 of the 10 finalists before the contest was over. Myself and 3 others were NOT asked for samples or better photos. One of
April 21, 2011 at 5:40 pm
those other finalists raised so much hell that they called her, and then emailed her asking her to send Hi-res photos so that they could show them on the show, this was wednesday night. She told myself and the other two finalists, to email and tell them to show their items with photos, They did it and I didn’t, I figured they would be fair in the end… which they weren’t, I was never contacted about photos or samples, and even though the contest blog said the TEN finalists would be featured on the show, they ended up only featuring 9 and I was completely cut out of it. I recieved an email saying that the producers picked the items that best demonstrated what the contest was about.
April 21, 2011 at 5:41 pm
and apparently, even though mine was made out of old sweaters, just like the skirt was, that was the ONLY one that didn’t for some reason. They told me that I was NOT excluded, LOL but I’m not sure what else you’d call it when I was the only one that was not INCLUDED… LOL
April 21, 2011 at 7:49 pm
That dizzy buttnugget should try peddling her wares at the craft fairs that are all over our fair land.
Man. *Talk* about coming up HARD against the Real World.
People have this way of puncturing your cupcakey little creamy bubble *right to your face*.
I do pretty well at craft fairs, but imagine what Ms. Fireman Coat That You Have To Supply and THEN She’ll Make a Messenger Bag would do if somebody told her(like I’ve been told *so* many times):
“They’ve got something like that at Target/Kmart/Walmart and it’s only (insert vastly lower price)!”
LMAO. But I’m sure she’d *never* lower herself to go to something as *crass* as a craft fair.
April 21, 2011 at 9:51 pm
she has her own website aside from etsy as well. And she was featured in the LA Times. Pretty much, from everyone I’ve talked to they figure her for a shoe in to win the contest, becasue she’s associated herself with firefighters. Honestly, who isn’t going to vote for “The Valor Bag”? It’s really very smart of her. I think the bags are cute, but who has $460 to send her along with a probably equally expensive FF coat? I don’t… but really to enter a voting contest and bring that prestige with you you can’t lose. When they were going to announce to finalists a women wrote on the Green is Universal FB page that the bag “brought her to tears”. I mean… did the soda tab dog collar do that? LOL
April 21, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Hmm… where is this site? My voting finger is itchy, and my politics is taking a decidedly Regretsian bent.
April 21, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Of the stuff I saw on the show, I thought those zipper flowers were pretty cool, and the pop top dog collars were really creative, and the most in spirit of the contest.
April 22, 2011 at 5:25 am
Green eggs: those zipper flowers were in an issue of Martha Stewart Living pre 2009, I know because I blogged about the project after the SECOND time if came in a MS newsletter, I linked to them on her website which is now a dead link for some reason. I’m sorry, it just annoys the hell out of me when people claim something as their own idea and then take all of the sunshine and credit like they are brilliant. I mean, I don’t think I invented dog sweaters just because I made a pattern for one. LOL
April 22, 2011 at 1:04 pm
jjk,
gee… could that be because Martha was one of the judges for this contest?
hmmm…
April 21, 2011 at 10:30 pm
I will buy your shit at $50 (or less) because I don’t live in fantasy land where I shit money to spend on hats.
April 22, 2011 at 10:24 am
A lot of people are touchy about pricing because it is hard for someone to make a living at crafting when hobbyists do the same thing & price it for half the price. And when you can get the same things cheaper at wal-mart it’s hard for handmade to compete.
Still no reason for her to be a bitch though.
I don’t know what formula she told you to use, but doubling your cost & tripling your labor doesn’t sound too bad if the item is small & quick to make… $3 materials plus half hour labor at $15/hr comes out to the item costing $21.
The formula I like is: material + labor x 2 = wholesale x 2 = retail
but some people take material & labor and triple it, some do material & labor x 1.5 to cover overhead, then quadruple that for retail.
April 22, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Yes but you see, this is why you have to make exceptionally good handmade merchandise if you want to make a living at it. The formula is a nice guideline, but no one cares how much time it took you to make something unremarkable.
Etsy doesn’t go into that, because if they discouraged people who don’t make very interesting or high quality things, they’d go out of business.
April 22, 2011 at 11:01 pm
HK – do you mind if I ask – where else is a good place to sell online, in your opinion? I was getting increasingly annoyed with Etsy before I found Regretsy, now I’d really like to get away from it but don’t know where to go to…
April 22, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Yeah, but this woman wasn’t figuring $15/hr for labor. She was figuring $80/hr. Meaning that same hat made by her would be $126!
April 21, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Please dial 9 before calling out
April 21, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Maybe the 2 ladies just reflect what the public thinks of Etsy which is certainly going in a negative direction. And who’s responsible for that? Something is rotten at Etsycorp because they should have known. The truth is they don’t care. Etsy is falling apart from the inside out, and while they will walk out the door with fat bank accounts, those few sellers that sell on Etsy today will be without a storefront in the near future.
Mismanagement and ignoring the FTC, ignoring the bad press, and spanking sellers in a public forum will catch up to Etsy sooner rather than later.
All the negative press about Etsy will eventually affect every seller on Etsy – and it don’t look good.
April 22, 2011 at 5:35 am
Which is exactly why I no longer sell on Etsy.
April 22, 2011 at 9:03 am
I’ve recently developed an interest in millinery, and my mother has suggested I sell some of my pillbox hats/fascinators on Etsy.
Shit like this is why I never will. I can’t abide the rampant illogic at work there.
April 21, 2011 at 5:47 pm
You shouldn’t have to spend a lot of green to go green…
April 21, 2011 at 10:12 pm
I like this.
April 21, 2011 at 5:49 pm
aahh lady’s.. third margarita of the hour…
April 21, 2011 at 5:49 pm
This post put a giant smile on my face. Helen Killer you slay me — with laughter!
Yes, all I have are ass-kissy comments, damn it. Well, I also have a wicked head cold, so it’s laughing and coughing… but anyway.
The lack of critical thought that goes on in Etsyland in mind-boggling sometimes. Maybe being raised in some utopia where no one ever wonders anything critical is the shit? Ah, no, because they would have replaced classic Coke with New Coke. Oh, Christ, take it away! Take it away! I think Crystal Pepsi still lives there too…
April 21, 2011 at 7:40 pm
I have a sneaking suspicion that Etsy is run entirely by people from our entitlement generation – all of us aged about 30 and under have been raised with that whole “OMG YOU’RE SO SPECIAL!” atmosphere that they feel that is how life should always be. Someone needs to introduce them (and others like them) to the real world. Ugh.
April 21, 2011 at 8:07 pm
You are special, just like everyone else.
April 21, 2011 at 9:42 pm
I get that feeling, too. I imagine that when someone new is hired, they’re given a pretty blue pin-on ribbon with “STAFF!” printed on it in gold, in Comic Sans.
April 21, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Oh, didn’t you know the world is fluffy bunnies and sunshine?
April 22, 2011 at 5:26 am
10th place trophy winners!
April 21, 2011 at 5:51 pm
This comment is my favorite.
April 21, 2011 at 6:01 pm
EscapePod! I recognize her photo.
April 21, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Damn! I knew I should have replaced her avatar!
April 21, 2011 at 6:32 pm
The avatar pictured above is much more flattering. The actual one is indicative of feces.
April 21, 2011 at 5:55 pm
I think I’m starting to understand the cycle where the regretsy featured items come from
1. Shitty yet enthusiastic crafter doesn’t get the sales they want, wanders off to the forums for help
2. Shitty crafter tinds a bunch of asshats who do nothing more than sit around and kiss each others asses and bitch about non-etsy meanies. The few sane people get shut down by admin prompty.
3. Shitty crafter goes back to making even worse shit with their new confidence from the boards that ban anything other than positive comments.
4. Cycle continues until they reach a whimsicle fuckery peak and end up featured here.
Sound accurate or are my regretsy observations off?
April 21, 2011 at 6:12 pm
You missed:
Step 5. ?????
Step 6. Profit
April 21, 2011 at 5:57 pm
I love how the forums mostly have the same trend
“OMG Etsy is going to be on the Today show!!!! Publicity!!! I’m so excited, I could just spooge in my skants!!!!”…
“oh…. oh wait…”
April 22, 2011 at 10:10 am
Yeah, it’s the same group-think that leads people to cheerlead for Etsy instead of their own shops. And Etsy encourages it, too.
April 21, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Wait, what? You have to provide your own materials? In that case, why don’t I just buy a fucking sewing machine?
This constitutes as a call-out? Etsy, I don’t think calling out means what you think it means.
April 23, 2011 at 2:56 am
For that price, you could!
April 21, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Hoda tells it like it is – YOU GO GIRL
imabettermother icon FTW!
April 21, 2011 at 6:31 pm
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April 21, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Really whiny comment from the Artfire artist that created the skirt – “I’ve waited all week to see my skirt on the show, and was quite sad they didn’t mention my name or shop, and the model had it on sideways”.
http://read.bi/dM8bzk
April 21, 2011 at 6:22 pm
How could you tell???? O_O ~smirk~
April 21, 2011 at 6:37 pm
That is priceless. Unlike that skirt.
April 21, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Kelleyanne WANK?!?! Oh, that’s too good.
April 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Makes me wonder if the seller actually puts tags in her items, then. There didn’t seem to be any real indication of what would be the “right” way to wear it (though I did think it looked off). If you’re not going to provide instructions or take the minute necessary to sew a tag in the skirt, then wah.
And was the purpose of the contest solely to say “hey check out seller’sname at etsy.com/seller’sshop!”?
April 21, 2011 at 9:56 pm
She said the embroidery goes in front that’s how you know. They had a lot of technical problems to begin with and my Etsy name/link was not even added to my entry until after the finalists had been announced. I don’t know about the other 9 finalists that actually were featured on the show, but as the one who got forgotten about and didn’t get any publicity at all, my shop hasn’t sold a thing from this! LOL
April 22, 2011 at 10:13 am
Is there some sort of “embroidery goes in front” rule? It’s like the artist who paints an abstract and then complains when it’s hung upside down. Step back from your work, look at it as someone who’s never seen it before, and add a tag or something.
April 22, 2011 at 10:15 am
Also, not to be mean, jjk, since I think you have a reason to be disappointed with how things happened – but – at least your work was picked. Most of the the sellers on Etsy didn’t even get that far. Put “selected as a pre-finalist for the Today Show” in your listing, and have done.
April 22, 2011 at 4:59 pm
I actually am the third place winner of the contest, LOL! They still never showed me or even mentioned me on their winner’s announcement blog post. It kills me, then when I looked it up on the web, I was give half a sentance in some places, when they gave non placing finalists their ouwn mini paragraphs. Why does everyone HATE my dog sweater so bad!!!? LMAO maybe if I had drawn a puff paint owl on it or or embroidered “Keep Calm & Carry On” down the back people would like it better!
April 22, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Also Rana, you had to prepare a tutorial with photos and independently submit it to the contest. They didn’t browse around and just select people from etsy. The sweater skirt maker is actually an ArtFire artist.
April 22, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Ah. That makes more sense. Apologies!
April 21, 2011 at 6:28 pm
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April 21, 2011 at 6:32 pm
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I fucking hate people. Present company excluded.
April 21, 2011 at 6:37 pm
I want to show up an Knickey’s Kniky… Kinky… Kicky… HER home and tell her I am offended by her presence in my plane of existence and tell her she needs to shift dimensions because I live in reality.
April 21, 2011 at 6:38 pm
April 21, 2011 at 6:42 pm
I just went to the NBC site to see if I could see more of this series since I do not watch TV and can’t find mention of it. Putting in keyword Etsy in the stupid onsite Bing search engine yields nothing but off-site hits. Can someone give me a link to more about this supposed contest?
April 21, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Never mind. I found it.
http://www.greenisuniversal-reuse.com/contest-rules
April 21, 2011 at 7:11 pm
it’s been mentioned in the begining of the fourth hour, the videos are under “Today’s Talk” on the Kathie Lee & Hoda subsite.
April 21, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Briefly ventured onto the Etsy forum threads and someone referred to them as “skatty”
I’m thinking they meant “catty”, but they may well have actually meant something involving turds. it’s Etsy, damned if I can make sense of their lingo.
All threads there eventually end this way:
Just add sparkles!
April 21, 2011 at 6:44 pm
So the recycled overpriced messenger bag didn’t include the used fireman’s coat? Dang!
I’m so glad I don’t buy anything on Etsy… don’t even have an account. People can call people beotches and skanks, but can’t say that some piece of shit is an overpriced piece of shit? Fuck that!
April 22, 2011 at 12:01 am
I can’t believe that you have to supply the coat WTF??
April 21, 2011 at 6:46 pm
So you can say whatever negative thing you want, even make a veiled threat, about anybody as long as they don’t have an Etsy account? What makes them all so sure Kathie Lee and Hoda Kotb (boy, tell me THAT name doesn’t look like an anagram?) don’t have Etsy accounts, hmmm?
April 21, 2011 at 6:51 pm
I have an Etsy account. So…. yeah.
April 21, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Helen; I just thought of something (I know, I know; crazy,right?). YOU have an Etsy account so they shouldn’t be allowed to be big meanies when they are referring to your HANDCRAFTED site. I think we have grounds for a legitimate…Oh, who the fuck am I kidding?
April 21, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Even other non-April people with Etsy accounts and even shop accounts who stood up for April and/or Regretsy were subjected to all sorts of nasty comments by the Team Bacon Etsy Forum Hags. There’s a huge double-standard over there and it’s absolutely infuriating.
The funniest event was when one of the Hags accused me of being April herself in sockpuppet disguise and I’m not even on the same planet as funny as April. Sort of sad that some of those Hags are still posting the same old bullshit and getting away with it.
April 21, 2011 at 9:26 pm
you mean like this kind of calling out?
“I was thinking of Regretsy too when I saw that video. The whole thing was presented in a Regretsy-type tone, and I can see how insulted I would personally be if I was the seller who made the firefighter bag, especially.”
I’m a lurker (but only b/c I am a thread killer from hell) but I had to make an account after reading some of this crap. OMG those people over there are batshit insane! My mother has been thinking of opening a shop to sell her awesome! knitted baby clothes…well not if I have anything to do about it.
Anyhoo…they called you out Helen go get ‘em!
April 21, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Despite “kin-ickies” happy avatar that might suggest a bubbly young woman, her ability to swiftly shut down any rational ideas makes me want to rage stroke.
I hope she loses all her mustache necklaces.
April 21, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Kinicky will shut you down faster than a Darlek can say:
EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!!
April 21, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Damnit, now I’m just thinking about that line from Grease, “a hickey from Knickey.” Though I doubt you’d want one from this Knickey cause she’d likely lean over all sweetly then tear your throat out with a rabid cupcake.
April 21, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Rabid Zombie Cupcake!!!!
http://www.etsy.com/listing/63674943/cupcake-zombie-scarf-horror-unique-scary>
April 21, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Everything in there makes me giggle.
April 22, 2011 at 7:45 am
EVERY time I see that admin name, I start singing Grease songs….
April 21, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Honestly, the more i know about the kind of people who dwell Etsy (except you “The Only Sane Person In The World”! (and by that i mean all of you!)) and the people who administrates it, the happier i am i found Regretsy first.
April 21, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Holy Christ on a crotchrocket. There is not enough scotch in the universe to make the Etsy Elite tolerable.
April 21, 2011 at 7:36 pm
TheOnlySanePersonInTheWorld wasn’t even calling out. She was just expressing that she wouldn’t pay that much personally. I guess maybe the skirt comment? I don’t get it. Etsy is the biggest fucking example of a trophy society, where even constructive criticism can’t be given.
April 21, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Oh, but don’t you READ the TOUs?!?! (she writes in such a way that the Etsy condescension can be plainly felt) You can’t even imply about something! If it can be identified in any way imaginable that’s BAD. Sane Person is just a big ol’ Blue Meanie who is just being MEAN!
April 21, 2011 at 7:41 pm
I love the irony of ALL of this. When Rob Kalin garners a buttload of negative publicity for Etsy via his INC article & various defensive postings on the Etsy privacy fiasco, the cupcakes defend him because any publicity is good publicity.
When someone who is *gasp* outside the incESTY clusterfuck calls these people on their crap, they’re skanky sluts who have no idea how true artistry operates blah blah blah , and OMFG how dare they make fun of anything & the PR is terrible.
Even the non-cupcakes at the Creative Breakroom are being ironic. They can’t see the forest for the trees – they make fun of anyone who’s craft they don’t deem good enough and are snobs about it, but they are just as offended at the Today show piece.
Cupcakes & non-cupcakes unite! They all make me laugh, and all need to grow a pair.
April 21, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Or Rent a Pair. It’s my new business.
April 22, 2011 at 11:38 am
Craft a pair from some string. There was a jar of vintage string on the FP the other day. Make sure to tag it steampunk. And Green, and upcycled. Oh – and take a picture on barnwood. Front Page gold.
April 21, 2011 at 7:45 pm
I was really hoping to see this on Regretsy but for a totally different reason: to point out how ironic it is that handmade goods, but not factory goods, are “overpriced”.
Kinda like you did here with the forum post I made: http://www.regretsy.com/2011/04/14/your-etsy-content-team-at-work/
I can understand high prices on handmade goods. What I don’t understand is factory goods & why someone will pay a high price for a label. If two purses are made in a sweatshop in China, why will you pay more for one with the “Coach” lable?
Who in their right mind buys crap like this– $900 for a purse??
http://www.gucci.com/us/styles/211943FQY1G8692#
http://tinyurl.com/3cljf8s
http://tinyurl.com/43pj3nt
The profit margin on mass-produced goods is far above handmade goods.
Sure, some handmade is overpriced pretentious shit. But at least you know no child slave labor went into the product. Hopefully.
April 21, 2011 at 7:47 pm
That messenger bag was better looking than this $500 factory-made purse:
April 21, 2011 at 7:58 pm
considering you need to supply an almost new firefighter coat (which cost around 300 dollars), you end up paying around 700 dollars for your eco-friendly bag.
April 21, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Ok, well that is a bit insane. I wouldn’t want to have to provide my own materials…. but I could see someone who did have an old firefighter coat wanting it to be turned into a bag (at a discount since the seller had no material costs, though)….
Anyone know what shop the bag comes from? I couldn’t find it on Etsy.
April 21, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Cleverscene is the shop
April 21, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Everything in her shop is freaky expensive… There is a jean pants messenger bag for over $200…
April 21, 2011 at 7:58 pm
NO, it wasn’t. Looked like a Walmart cheapie to me.
How I *love* to puncture the Technicolor daydreams of phony-baloney poseurs.
April 21, 2011 at 8:06 pm
I personally don’t like the look of Coach bags, but to each their own. I think they look gaudy and pretentious…
But this $700 messenger bag is actually really cool:
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?itemId=prod110540041&ecid=NMCIGoogleBaseFeed&003=5840816&010=N12QE&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=N12QE
April 21, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Oh it looks so sreampunk, i love it.
… I could buy 3 nintendo 3DS or 19 video games with that amount of money though…
April 21, 2011 at 8:14 pm
By the way, why are our comments appearing as new comments instead of comment replies?
April 21, 2011 at 8:37 pm
No idea. It somehow put mine comment at the middle of the page when it was supposed to be a new comment.
April 21, 2011 at 8:18 pm
I’m pretty much with you on the designer bag thing; just not my style. That Neiman’s bag is sweeeet, though. It will NEVER be in my price range.
April 22, 2011 at 3:46 am
The NM Coachbag isn’t my style, but I like it.
April 21, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Whoa just found this for $995 on Etsy. Now if they were making fun of this, I’d understand:
April 22, 2011 at 12:53 am
This looks like something I’d run across at Goodwill & think that, at a few dollars, it was overpriced.
April 22, 2011 at 5:36 am
I swear I need to start a website called “What Assholes Pay for Stuff”
April 22, 2011 at 6:26 pm
DOOOOO EEEEEET!
April 21, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Soooo.. any sort of callout on the Etsy forums causes an Admin to show up and shut down the thread? Goodness, I’d never use that power for evil.
April 21, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Did anyone else see the comment comparing the bag to the Mona Lisa?
I almost died.
April 21, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Yes!!!!!!
April 22, 2011 at 1:58 pm
YES!
Michelangelo himself didn’t slap a $10 million price tag on it and try to hock it on the internet.
And I bet he didn’t ask Mona to bring the paint.
April 21, 2011 at 8:53 pm
i
hate
etsy
forums
i just want to suckerpunch all of them
April 21, 2011 at 8:59 pm
from a comment on the forums:
“What is going on here in this thread is calling out another seller. Period. It went from being about the segment to this, and this is calling out.
——
Yup. Wish admin would shut it down.
”
CHRIST ARE THESE PEOPLE 4? My kindergartener is more self- sufficient than these ridiculous twats. “MOMMY, THEYRE BEING MEAN!”
April 21, 2011 at 9:39 pm
I’m conflicted.
On the one hand is a bunch of butthurt whiney self-righteous dipwads who probably deserve some mocking and on the other hand is Kathie Lee. Same difference?
*sigh*
I just don’t have a dog in this fight.
April 21, 2011 at 9:51 pm
This just started up…
http://www.etsy.com/teams/7722/business-topics/discuss/6863939/
April 21, 2011 at 10:08 pm
“If I thought I could create a Regretsy worthy piece that wouldn’t drag my rather zen, calm, soothing, high end feel of my shop down with it – I would soooooo do it! I think regretsy is (generally) hilarious and would LOVE the traffic it would bring me.”
This is from a woman who is selling 4 rocks for 9.95 as “meditation stones”. She’s got stones all right.
April 21, 2011 at 11:14 pm
i JUST copied and pasted that exact quote–
translation: i want to be fun, but i have a stick way too far up my ass to ever be
April 22, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Aaaaaand it’s still going strong with Regretsy L<3VE!
April 21, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Pretty sure that “moonstr” needs to just put in her seller profile “I hate regretsy bitches, they are all mean and I will seek out regretsy threads to poop on them!” So many of the sellers who had been regretsy featured were great! Why so sad moonstr???
April 22, 2011 at 2:29 pm
What item of hers got featured? Now that I know she has no sense of humor (and can’t type), whatever “art” she excreted will seem even crappier.
April 21, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Okay, sorry, but this has been bugging me. As far as “green” goes, wouldn’t it have been better for the world to send gently used firefighter coats to third world country fire departments that can’t afford that stuff? I mean, I know they are full of chemicals and stuff, but I just thought reusing them where they are actually needed would be better. I think that’s mostly what irks me about the messenger bag; it’s both overpriced and not really that green at all. This might just be me being an idiot, though. I’m comfortable with being called out about it here.
April 21, 2011 at 10:20 pm
I agree with you.
IMO, it’s only Green to use something in crafting if you would have thrown it in the trash, or recyled it as scrap, otherwise. Cutting up a perfectly serviceable firefighter’s coat to make a vanity item just seems shameful to me.
April 22, 2011 at 5:35 am
I think on her website it says they are made out of FF retirement coats, like ones you would normally have as a keepsake or something. Personally, if it were me, I wouldn’t trust someone to take the scissors to something like that, but I mean, whatever.
April 22, 2011 at 8:09 am
Yeah, really. My brother is a firefighter; those coats are like the ribbons and medals in the military. They’re a physical representation of your bravery and dedication to service, they say you made it through all those fires, came out alive, and lived long enough to retire. Cutting one of those up for a messenger bag? It’d be like using a Purple Heart to make a zipper pull for a coat. It’s the sort of thing you frame and keep in a place of honor…snip snipping it isn’t green at all, it’s downright atrocious.
(For those who don’t know the military or fire department, imagine someone slicing up your letterman’s jacket from high school. GASP!)
Bad Idea all around.
April 23, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Winged Writer, you are spot on. It’s like taking a military service coat and turning it into a dust ruffle and throw pillows.
April 22, 2011 at 10:28 am
Some types of protective garments lose their protectiveness the more they’re used. I’m not exactly sure how FF coats work, but there might be a legitimate reason they aren’t reused.
April 21, 2011 at 10:19 pm
I’m beginning to think knickey is just a robot pre-programmed to seek out certain words and shut down threads with those words in them. I still want to punch it in the face.
April 22, 2011 at 8:44 am
That would make the fake spelling of her name a LITTLE less annoying.
April 22, 2011 at 11:34 am
I think most Admin’s are. I don’t think they read the threads in their entirety, just the posts that are reported, and they shut down with already typed out posts – copied & pasted.
Be nice Be respectful Going to Close this Now Here is a a link Here is a team Here is a rule
April 21, 2011 at 11:14 pm
There’s quite an astonishing level of hypocrisy in calling another person a bitch when you yourself antagonized the mother and the friend of a dead child. Especially when the “bitch” is looking to help that mother and that friend. Alright then lady, whatever you say.
April 21, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Commented on the wrong post.
Clearly I am inebriated.
April 22, 2011 at 12:55 am
Nothing wrong with being inebriated.
April 22, 2011 at 8:43 am
Do forums get closed when people “call out” how much hypocrisy the official rules support?
Also, what would happen if somebody started a forum full of obviously sarcastic compliments for all kinds of bullshit on Etsy? If they close it, everybody could complain that they were complimenting the items. It’d be like creating a sarcastic gallery full of vagina-craft, but in the forums.
April 22, 2011 at 11:10 am
One Etsy seller posted this comment:
^^^this
Why am I not surprised? Wasn’t Kathie Lee involved in having her crap clothing line made by children in China? Remember??? Yeah, perhaps had they featured resellers goods that are allowed to be sold on Etsy, Kathie and her sidekick would have felt much more at home.
I feel bad for all of the artisans at Etsy. This was not positive promotion for Etsy. Not one second of it.
How the Cupcake Elves missed the reseller dig, I will never know…
April 22, 2011 at 11:23 am
Etsy’s mods are a bunch of hypocritical pussies.
April 22, 2011 at 11:44 am
Why are they crying so much?! How many professional artists have their work bashed every day? It’s part of taking the chance of putting your work out there to be seen. Just because someone made it by hand and they think it’s great doesn’t mean it is. Nut up and take some criticism. Not everyone is going to think your idea is the holiest of holies. I mean even classical art has been lampooned.
April 22, 2011 at 12:13 pm
I’m a little disappointed to see the mini-cakes over at Creative Breakroom engaging in the talking-shit-about-’mean’-people-isn’t-mean bullshit, too. I honestly think most Etsy sellers would fall apart if they were subjected to so much as a day in an art school.
April 22, 2011 at 5:16 pm
I actually have a degree from SCAD. lol But I agree. The only thing that put me off about the attitude of KL & Hoda was that they gushed over the first two days items then flipped and didn’t like the rest.Plus mentioning it on the FB page was a nice way to stick in a passive agressive HAVE AT YOU for the egomaniacs. LOL
I’m often bothered by the “hand crafted quality” angle of many items that I see with crooked/uneven stitching, poor construction, EXTREME over-embellishment, etc. Look at Great-Grandma’s quilt, or anything made by the Amish…handmade has never meant “looks like it was made by a color blind four year old” until very recently.
April 22, 2011 at 11:49 am
Man…every time April posts comments like these from the Etsy forums, I’m reminded of the cool kid clique from my high school – elitist, mean, hypocritical.
Now, as a grown man, I take great pleasure from the fact that I now realize there WERE no cool kids at my Christian high school. Being a hand-assembler of plastic chrysanthemum rings on Etsy and then trashing the hosts of the Today show is an awful lot like the clique at my alma mater listing Amy Grant and Michael W. Smith as your favorite bands, yet making fun of me for loving The Police and Joni Mitchell.
April 22, 2011 at 6:21 pm
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April 24, 2011 at 8:28 am
Yet another nail in the “We need a new crafting site where people aren’t afraid to call others on their bullshit” board.
Just need a name, and I will personally buy a domain and stick some crappy shopping cart software in there so people can do what they can do with Etsy, except that I will NUKE WITHOUT QUESTION accounts from idiots reselling 30 sent doodads for 40 bucks just because they chewed up a piece of gum and stuck one piece of crap to another piece of crap and called it WHIMSICLE!
April 24, 2011 at 8:51 am
Geeze, I’m so ticked off that I misspelled “cent”. Warghlargle!
April 24, 2011 at 8:55 am
These “artists” and their supporters show why anyone who wants to sell should leave Etsy. Kathy Lee and Hoda pretty much got backed into a wall having to comment on this stuff. Etsy forums used to be fun but after seeing all this, its like jumping into a pile of razor blades. This makes me want to go to shoply.com and use their Etsy importer and be done with cupcakes.
April 24, 2011 at 8:57 am
Knickey is obviously an old, wrinkled, drunk person who would pay $400 for the honor of providing her own materials for a mediocre skirt.
April 25, 2011 at 7:48 am
Why has nobody made a website just for calling people out on etsy. I mean, I know we do it here, but there should be some place where we can name and shame resellers…maybe keep a master list or something.
April 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm
i got a regretsy account so i can comment on this post, so this one is in the lead for most frustrating post i’ve seen on this site. what are these etsy sellers thinking? that if they defame the hosts of the today show they’ll somehow increase their chances of getting publicity? ’cause i think it works better the other way around.
it was an error on the part of the hosts and staff of the show to make fun of products they’re supposed to be promoting but mistakes like that sometimes happen and maybe if etsy sellers pointed out the error without the use of irrational, off-point insults the show would consider another segment to make up for the botched one. now etsy sellers just look even worse ’cause the forums make us look like a bunch of cranky, bitchy old ladies with too much time on our hands.
don’t even get me started on how the etsy admin allow defamatory remarks to be made against innocent bystanders but not a person in the etsy community. sigh.