LOLocaust
- Submitted by Spencer
This neat little hat is such fun! It makes me think of warm nights on the Rhine, being forced at gunpoint to watch the skies for allied aircraft. Oh, it makes me giggle like a jungfrau just thinking about it!
The only way this hat could be more fun is if it had an owl on it.
CONVO ME FOR ARMBAND
December 19, 2009 at 1:57 pm
What fun – I can wear it as I ‘duck and cover!’
December 19, 2009 at 2:01 pm
“convo me for armband” ha!
the only other item in her shop is also quite disturbing…a poor little seal (they look like puppies to me) was skinned for this ugly wallet-
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=vl_other_1&listing_id=36687390
December 19, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I would luf-t-schutz on this hat.
December 19, 2009 at 2:08 pm
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December 19, 2009 at 2:12 pm
“This is a really fun piece”
Yeah, for freaking your grandfather into have those “war flashbacks” that he usually only gets on the Fourth of July.
December 19, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Oh man.
It wouldn’t be so bad if she just hadn’t had said that. Maybe I think its commonplace since my ex boyfriend collected this shit, but I don’t know.
But really, does anyone have that lollocaust ASCII art .gif? That would be fun.
December 19, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Das ist fun hat? Nein, das ist Scheiße bad hat! Bad bad Scheiße hat!
Scheiße = Shit.
And that is the extent of my German!
December 19, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Shouldn’t this also be filed under “not even remotely hand made” as well?
December 19, 2009 at 2:30 pm
not very craft-y or handmade-y, is it?
December 19, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Call me crazy, but I think this maybe belongs in a museum. Or in the hands of a WWII collector.
December 19, 2009 at 2:40 pm
HK: “The only way this hat could be more fun is if it had an owl on it.”
…or a vagina, which in German is spelled, “vagina.”
December 19, 2009 at 2:42 pm
What can you say about offensive Nazi crap on Etsy?
“Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Deutschland is happy and gay!
We’re marching to a faster pace
Look out, here comes the Etsy race!”
–mangled lyrics from The Producers
“No soiling”—really? Sounds like the seller soiled himself describing it.
December 19, 2009 at 2:45 pm
“This is a really fun piece”
Fuck you, you racist cunt.
December 19, 2009 at 2:54 pm
The model DOES look like she’s having fun…but I also noticed she won’t look us in the eye.
December 19, 2009 at 2:55 pm
@ 13 – I reckon that’s the first time I’ve agreed with a sentence that contains the ‘c’ word.
@8 – is vintage – totally allowed on etsy.
December 19, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Too bad Hanukah is over! But then again it’s never too late to give fun gifts like this. But remember, not for your museum, only for a prop!
December 19, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Oh, and maybe she should tag it “Juden” just for fun!
December 19, 2009 at 2:59 pm
The seller should spend some time in Auschwitz just to see how fun it really is!
December 19, 2009 at 3:13 pm
#15 ohdearydearyme :
@ 13 – I reckon that’s the first time I’ve agreed with a sentence that contains the ‘c’ word.
I reserve the C word for extra special assholes
December 19, 2009 at 3:14 pm
“Fuck you, you racist cunt.”
While I agree about the racism, does it strike you as ironic at all to use such heavily sexist language when calling someone a racist? Just askin’.
December 19, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I would like to know what movie she thinks this is from.
December 19, 2009 at 3:31 pm
http://www.rofl.name/a/ has the Lollercaust, and lots of others!
December 19, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Why only as a prop? Are you going to have one random Nazi in your movie? Wouldn’t you need, oh, multiples?
This shit should be donated to a museum or collector; I agree. Shouldn’t be selling it at all.
December 19, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Nope, doesn’t strike me ironic at all. Have you ever heard of taking back a word? Black people can use the “N” word and as a woman I can use the “C” word.
December 19, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Perfect for Hannukah.
December 19, 2009 at 4:28 pm
NAZIS TEE HEE
(also why does nobody ever get up in arms about the usage of “dick” or “cock” as an insult)
December 19, 2009 at 4:29 pm
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December 19, 2009 at 4:36 pm
“…called a racist cunt just for selling an antique”
This isn’t a spinning wheel, it’s Nazi paraphernalia described as “fun”. I think that has more to do with the reaction than the age of the hat.
December 19, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I am betting that this lady thinks that the confederation dress is cute! She probably puts those charlie chaplin mustaches on her babies to complete the effect. What a fun charmer!
December 19, 2009 at 4:33 pm
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December 19, 2009 at 4:34 pm
case i think it’s more about the description, not every german was a nazi etc i know this, but antique or no, it’s a bit of a weird thing to call war memorabilia “fun”.
i blame hipsters myself
*invades half of europe and embarks on a program of genocide, but does it ironically*
December 19, 2009 at 4:35 pm
read carefully. It never actually claims to be an ‘authentic World war II’ hat.
So it probably is just a movie prop. Also Mikeshakesthe cat’ What type of movie only has one random woman nazi? Bob Cranes’s home movies for starters.
December 19, 2009 at 4:39 pm
#27 crazycase :
*** nevermind *** I had a long post typed out to defend the seller from being called a racist cunt just for selling an antique, but I figured anyone who thought that wouldn’t understand…
According to the seller it’s a movie prop and not an antique. Of course selling a movie prop doesn’t necessarily make someone a racist, but referring to it as “fun” does. At least in my book…but you probably wouldn’t understand…
December 19, 2009 at 4:40 pm
one explaination: a hat ‘as worn by’ isn’t the same as a ‘hat which was worn by’. It is a sleazy way to imply something that it isn’t.
December 19, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Helen gets it. That’s all that matters.
December 19, 2009 at 4:43 pm
@ #29 DYNOMOOSE!! Is that true? “Regretsyed” is going into the urban dictionary? WOW!!
December 19, 2009 at 4:43 pm
this would be a great compliment to the confederate flag dress!
#12: when hitler says we are the master race, sieg heil, sieg heil, right in the fuhrer’s face!
December 19, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Stages of reaction:
1. It’s just a cool old vintage hat. It’s kind of awesome. I’d totally wear that.
2. (Jaw dropping) OH MY FUCKING CHRIST FUCK, that’s some king of nazi hat and she’s smiling and calling it “fun” dear god wtf is she blind?
3. (reading comment #13, shouting FUCK YES!! out loud.)
December 19, 2009 at 4:58 pm
uh…”some kind of” nazi hat, I mean. I’m not sure what the “king” hat looks like, but I bet someone here could photoshop something incredible. Like a swastika birthday cake on a baseball cap with flaming hitlers popping out of it?
December 19, 2009 at 5:04 pm
honestly, my only issue is tryng to hipster-ize this by calling it ‘fun’. I have no problem with people who collect these things as a historical interest, but I do hope whoever ends up with this doesn’t wear it around town, movie prop or no.
December 19, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Nazi hats are ‘fun’? So is skinning seals so you can put your 12 credit cards inside. Granted they are both ‘vintage’, but take the heat. This crap is offensive.
December 19, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Well, it *was* probably handmade. By Jewish slave laborers.
December 19, 2009 at 5:35 pm
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December 19, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I’d like to receive another lecture about the swasika-as Buddhist-symbol now, please.
#43 No one said ALL Germans were Nazis. What is your opinion about people who think dressing up in Nazi regalia is “fun?”
From the tone of your second point it almost sounds like you think it was wrong for the U.S. to have been at war with Nazi Germany. Was that your intention?
December 19, 2009 at 5:52 pm
I agree that the seller’s description was inept.
I don’t think it was wrong for the US to be at war with the Nazis.
I don’t know how my comment about people protecting their cities was taken as saying it was wrong for us to enter the war. Late as we did, even when we already knew what the Nazis were doing for years.
December 19, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Then it’s unintentional irony! That’s even funnier.
December 19, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Because lauding Nazis for protecting themselves is not that far removed from saying “they were just following orders.” It’s not exactly the same, of course, but it’s definitely a weird direction to go in.
December 19, 2009 at 6:49 pm
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December 19, 2009 at 6:50 pm
For everyone that thinks all Germans are guilty by association:
Bush held the Office for 2 terms. Everyone here must have voted for him… Wait, What? are you saying you didn’t? Doesn’t matter… doesn’t matter, he was in, so you must have voted for him… your all a bunch of ra……
December 19, 2009 at 7:08 pm
#43, that’s right, not all Germans were Nazis. Some were Jews (or Jehovah’s Witnesses or Romani) in the Nazi death camps. Cram it, you revisionist apologist. Germany deserved to get a few cities firebombed after what it did to Warsaw and Rotterdam about a dozen other civilian-filled cities. Nazi crap is not “fun”. Period.
Oh yeah, I’m half German (American on one side, Jewish on the other), in case you think I’m anti-German or something.
December 19, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Ninjagato, I hate the C-word. HAAAATE IT! It pisses me off, whether used by a woman or a man. But I still uprated your comment. Because you were right. That’s the only time the use of that word ever, ever made me laugh.
December 19, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Although I could see it being used as a prop in some sick, twisted porno vid.
December 19, 2009 at 7:16 pm
And P.S, no, obviously not all Germans are Nazis, but if you were in the German military during WWII, you were a Nazi by definition, unless you were really a spy for the other side. Hey, this discussion is fun, huh?
December 19, 2009 at 7:26 pm
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December 19, 2009 at 7:46 pm
#36 Helen Killer : someone suggested that we all it and I guess it worked. Because that was the email I received after my submission.
#53, uuuuh, no. Regular German military was not Nazi.
December 19, 2009 at 7:49 pm
OK, if someone was working for the Nazi government, fighting to protect Nazi control of Germany (plus the other countries they had taken over) then how were they not a Nazi?
December 19, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Wow, that was a weird typo. I meant to say that someone suggested that we all submit Regretsy. Not that we all it. Don’t know what the action “it” would be, but fear that it would be quite naughty.
December 19, 2009 at 7:51 pm
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December 19, 2009 at 7:52 pm
#57, it’s still offensive, and so was your fervent defense of the confederate flag yesterday.
December 19, 2009 at 7:55 pm
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December 19, 2009 at 7:57 pm
No, I just thought you were being a condescending jackass and thought I’d give you a little back. You could have just given me a reasonable answer instead of being a jerk. I was plenty willing to hear your explanation.
December 19, 2009 at 8:00 pm
And BTW, as for defending the Confederate flag, telling people “Read some history” is not an excuse.
December 19, 2009 at 8:01 pm
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December 19, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Your so helpful and knowledgable, Dynomoose. You make really great points that have added to the knowledge and enjoyment of everyone here! Thank you so much, and I really look forward to reading your future insightful posts!
December 19, 2009 at 8:05 pm
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December 19, 2009 at 8:50 pm
#63, when I want to learn about an infamous era in history, I always use Google, because everything on the internet is always correct. *rolling eyes*
I suggest you go out and actually read some books and watch some documentaries on the era. Not only were soldiers required to pledge allegiance to the party, but even the different levels of boy- and girl-scouts. An excellent documentary to start off with is “The Nazi Officer’s Wife”.
I’ll step off my soapbox now.
December 19, 2009 at 9:09 pm
There is nothing Fun at all about this hat nor its connotations, and I hope it’s hot and itchy and gives any NeoNazi Aryan wearer headlice.
December 19, 2009 at 9:50 pm
#68- I do too. I imagine that NeoNazi head lice would be a particularly vicious and itchy subtype of lice, producing extra misery!
December 19, 2009 at 10:30 pm
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For everyone that thinks all Germans are guilty by association:
Bush held the Office for 2 terms. Everyone here must have voted for him… Wait, What? are you saying you didn’t? Doesn’t matter… doesn’t matter, he was in, so you must have voted for him… your all a bunch of ra……
Why did that comment get rated down?
December 19, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Amazing! This thread went for 50 whole posts before it became a flame war! (although, maybe using *that* term for an argument about the holocaust isnt such a good idea)
Anyway, someone enlighten me. I thought etsy was for handmade stuff, even something as silly as a paperclip on a string counts as handmade. This seems more like war memorabilia, better suited for someplace else.
Maybe if she made it into, I dunno, a lampshade… That would be kinda crafsy, (and disturbingly self-reflexive.)
December 19, 2009 at 10:46 pm
.. should follow up.. even if it’s a movie prop, doesnt that still not pass muster for etsy? She never said anything about who made it. She just said “vintage”
this bitch is vague, yo.
December 19, 2009 at 11:04 pm
You can also sell vintage items on Etsy. Things that are 20 years or older are considered vintage.
Yes, these symbols mean different things to different people, but anything with a swastika, or a confederate flag for that matter, is offensive to a lot of people. I don’t know why someone would say that anything with a swastika on it is “fun” or “neat”.
And #54 Rawr: Are you suggesting that Peta stages live animal skinnings? If so, that’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
December 19, 2009 at 11:04 pm
#47
So, you expect people to not protect themselves? And their children?
This is a civil defense cap, with the insignia of the state. It doesn’t mean that the person who wore it was a murderer, or even a member of the Nazi party.
Most likely the person who would have worn it was digging through rubble, trying to find victims, wounded civilians.
Also my brother collected panzer toys when he was a kid- does that make him a racist?
December 19, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Thank you #73!
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2 cents: While some of us grok the ideological divisions btwn regular military vs. waffen SS and inner party, it’s still a swastika: a symbol with such power that it trumps whatever piece of clothing it’s on. To expect everyone nowadays to know the history of the third reich when you sell something like that on etsy, *especially* when you give almost ZERO education about it, and then call it FUN? Probably only self-hating jews with gallows humor (such as myself) will agree.
December 19, 2009 at 11:42 pm
@ #47, Actually, the person who wore this assisted the military, not civilians. But it wasn’t their choice. The Luftschutz was not “voluntary”; it was mandatory service forced on women, children and the elderly. So you can see why this hat is so much fun!
December 19, 2009 at 11:58 pm
In all of my years of obsessive research about the third reich, I dont know diddly about the luftschutz, which means that Im off to the library after I come out of my shame spiral.
December 20, 2009 at 12:04 am
I’m a bit surprised that people find the pseudo-vintage tasteless crap featured here so historically relevant and upsetting now. If one wanted to make a movie, say, “Indiana Jones V: Nazis vs The Dukes of Hazzard” where else could one find such ‘fun’ props?
December 20, 2009 at 1:32 am
I’d buy tickets to that dance. (Actually, I’d be more interested in the “making of” bonus section on the DVD)
It’s already on paper in hollywood somewhere. A sucker bet to vote against.
December 20, 2009 at 6:02 am
Thumbs down, palJacky, Bob Crane made porn, not movies.
December 20, 2009 at 9:08 am
Helen – The Luftschutz is sometimes said to have been voluntary, but “voluntary” in a totalitarian regime = with us or against us.
“Join the Luftschutz, Frau! Service is optional, but if you don’t join we’ll raid your home in the middle of the night and cart your children off at gunpoint! Do you need a little time to think about it?”
December 20, 2009 at 12:13 pm
With a “vintage” item like this, the proper context is everything…and here I’m irked about the seller’s smirky description and the smiling model. So, unless you’re a Buddhist monk living out your days in Lhasa, you should be aware of the stain the Nazis left on the swastika. The swastika was a symbol in Finland too—but nobody I know makes the mistake of knitting swastika sweaters for Etsy. Some people need a fucking clue.
December 20, 2009 at 1:22 pm
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December 20, 2009 at 1:36 pm
@ #83, I don’t know if that’s true. I don’t think sensitivity to calling WWII memorabilia “fun” is exclusive to Regretsy commenters.
And while I get that the swastika can have other meanings, it only has one on a hat like this. The Luftschutz wasn’t a Buddhist organization.
December 20, 2009 at 10:02 pm
(To the tune of Walking on Sunshine)
She once scanned German skies for bombers,
But now she is dead.
So I bought her swastika cap,
It looks cool on my head.
Now who cares if she was a Nazi,
Or who was her boss?
I don’t know jack shit about history,
Or the Holocaust.
I’m wearin’ my Kraut cap, neat-o!
I’m wearin’ my Kraut cap, neat-o!
I’m wearin’ my Kraut cap, neat-o!
And what a fun piece!
Hey, all right now
And what a fun piece!
Hey, yeah…
December 21, 2009 at 7:46 am
Don’t be lumping that sealskin wallet in the same category of awful as the hipsterization of the WWII hat!
Seals ARE cute, but if fur crafts from them are Native-made (as the wallet apparently is), it’s probably been put to better, more respectful use than most other American-made animal products; far as I know, there ain’t no factory-style seal farming in the Arctic.