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Maybe it’s Maybelline

11/11/09 UPDATE: Seller now insists this is not a misspelling after all.

See, one book is spelled “Rouge”, and the other one is spelled, “Rouge”. So that should clear it up.

12/5/09 UPDATE: Still having some trouble with the name of the book, though this one sounds like it would be more interesting.

107 comments on Maybe it’s Maybelline

  1. needle girl
    November 7, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    I just threw up in my mouth a little:(

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  2. klair
    November 7, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    This captures the essence of Sarah Palin’s fans perfectly.

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  3. LS070704
    November 7, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    hmm, perhaps it has to do with a pig wearing lipstick?

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  4. klair
    November 7, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Also: a red “sache?”

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  5. bush whacker
    November 7, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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    • Helen Killer
      November 7, 2009 at 3:57 pm

      @ #5 Now I’m laughing at you because you didn’t catch THAT HE SPELLED “ROGUE” WRONG.

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  6. Avivafae
    November 7, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    That’s the kinda thing to buy just so you can break it when you’re upset. You know, so you don’t break something that actually means anything.

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  7. bush whacker
    November 7, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    omg you’re right!

    Sorry Helen.

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  8. Knitler Youth
    November 7, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Bush, don’t forget the Obama toilet seat cover that was featured here.

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  9. malaquite1
    November 7, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    That really has it all. Ugly, stupid, spelling error that actually turns into a whole ‘nother word… awesome.

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  10. sweetbirdofparadox
    November 7, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    In fairness, there is a book coming out that parodies Going Rogue, that is actually called Going Rouge. This person may or may not know that though.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/22/going-rouge-ithe-nationi_n_330682.html

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    • Helen Killer
      November 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm

      There’s nothing in their store to support the idea that they have that level of awareness.

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  11. The Blue Kraken
    November 7, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    i think this guy is just trying to market stuff by putting someones name on it thinking it will sell..
    which the scheme in itself i find tasteless and tacky. kinda like slap michel jackson on it and say “lookie! mickel jackson memorabilia, better get it quick”

    usually isnt a sache what you wear around your waist? no sorry that’s sash .. sachet was what he was trying to spell? why not just say “gift bag”

    and Klair it sure doesn’t capture MY essence

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  12. Helen Killer
    November 7, 2009 at 4:11 pm

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    • walm.art
      January 19, 2013 at 5:22 pm

      Beautiful. I congratulate you.

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  13. Monstrosa
    November 7, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Perfect!

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  14. thembone
    November 7, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    I’ve come across this seller before, and I think they may sincerely be the most boggling etsian out there. Even if I supported Palin (and what are we supporting her for anymore? The next election? Already?) I wouldn’t want an ugly ass etched hunk of glass that said so. I’d buy a bumper sticker like everyone else. This one confuses me too:
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=21983798

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  15. Street Corner Hooker
    November 7, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Oh, is she joining my profession?

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  16. The Blue Kraken
    November 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Hellen Thank you knew it looked odd for something was wrong other than tacky. looks like someone used Spell Check without checking it twice.

    BOL awesome edit as well!!

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  17. Ivriniel
    November 7, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    I must confess, the first time I saw the title of Sarah Palin’s book, I thought it said “Going Rouge”

    I thought it was somehow a reference to the whole red state blue state thing.

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  18. Lexiii
    November 7, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    I find it hard to believe that she has sold several Palin ornaments already.

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  19. Lexiii
    November 7, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    It would go nicely in a gift basket with this…
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=34029056&ref=cat1_gallery_5

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  20. hammerhead77
    November 7, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    For #5 — There has been Obama stuff on here. In addition to the above noted Obama toilet seat cover, there was also that “handmade” Obama coffee packet. If somebody crafted an Obama ornament with Chainge on it I think it would make the cut. :)

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  21. NinjaGato
    November 7, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    What’s a sache? Does she mean sachet or sack?

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  22. Ivriniel
    November 7, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Bushwhacker: What about the Obama Coffee?

    And this is pretty awful: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=10693888

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  23. jeffreyrcarey
    November 7, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Sometimes I just don’t know what to say. The dumbing down of America is certainly prevalent on Etsy. Don’t people proofread anymore? Can’t these artisans take a step back and try and look at their creations from others’ perspectives?

    Some of this is just SAD (in its hilarity).

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  24. worldfamousfudgy
    November 7, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Even if there were no spelling error involved, items like this can be procured at mall kiosks and at those ubiquitous “gift shoppes” which vend tacky music boxes and curios which feature gnomes, ladybugs and faeries.

    I agree with the comment of Blue Kraken– this seller is just using names to sell items.

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  25. dwax
    November 7, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    #15: What do you mean, what are we supporting Palin for? It says quite clearly, “Christmas 2009″ — she’s running for Christmas. I don’t support her as a candidate, though — I don’t see her lasting much past the 4th day of Christmas. I support Clinton. 12 More Days! 12 More Days!

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  26. moontreestudios
    November 7, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    #27 the real question is, is she running for Christmas, or just ruining Christmas?

    I might need this ornament just so i can smash it. I’ll buy one for #6, too.

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  27. hellvetica
    November 7, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    In searching for the actual book title, I found this:
    http://shelf-life.ew.com/2009/10/21/going-rouge-palin-basher-lookalike/

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  28. ihatecowls
    November 7, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    i dont even get this, but then im australian

    please explain

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  29. Memiki
    November 7, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    #13 just about made me piss myself laughing.

    That almost made me lose my urge to hunt this seller from a helicopter. ;)

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  30. sar-sar
    November 7, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Doesn’t that illustrate the average intelligence of a Palin supporter / follower. This is perfect, just perfect. Very adroit.

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  31. Cold Salt
    November 7, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Sarah Palin is famous for, among other things, “going rogue” during the 2008 presidential campaign. Supposedly she defied the advice of the McCain advisors. However, this seller has made a little spelling error. But dear Sarah did highlight how she wore lipstick so hey, it works!

    But I agree with #28, I’d only buy it to smash it. Probably with her book, which I would do at the bookstore so I would not have to pay for it.

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  32. Helen Killer
    November 7, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    @#30, When Sarah Palin was running with John McCain, some people said she was “going rogue”, meaning she was being self-interested and disloyal to the campaign. She’s kind of re-purposed that, and is using it as a compliment. And to that end, she’s titled her upcoming book “Going Rogue”.

    This seller engraved it on a Christmas ornament, but they spelled it “Going Rouge”, which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.

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  33. everydaymama
    November 7, 2009 at 6:49 pm

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  34. Memiki
    November 7, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    #35, in the link you provided, in the thumbnail that shows “sellers other items,” the “baby’s first christmas” ornament looks like its shaped like South Korea. LOL that’s seriously what I thought it was at first.

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  35. DucksNew
    November 7, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    The seller changed the description. The “sache” is no longer red. It’s rouge. Oh, and it’s spelled correctly (sachet).

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  36. Laurinha
    November 7, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Spelled right or wrong, all items in that store are equally hideous!

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  37. quantuminsanity
    November 7, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  38. Holly Weird
    November 7, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    I am almost tempted to buy this for my one and only Republican friend to see if she can spot the spelling error. I suspect that she would not.

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  39. jeffreyrcarey
    November 7, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    I don’t understand the sentence “Can also be used as OR SUN CATCHER”. What is an “OR SUN CATCHER”? On-request sun catcher? Seller fixed some words but leaves that. Strange, really strange.

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  40. crapgawker
    November 7, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Yeah – they’re getting loads of sun up there in Alaska this time of year *snort*.

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  41. hammerhead77
    November 7, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    everydaymama – I totally want a FLEUR DE LIZ. I will love it (??her) tell the end of time.

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  42. Ivriniel
    November 7, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Was it originally tagged as “Comic”?

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  43. Ivriniel
    November 7, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    You know, given that the seller also has an Obama Christmas Ornament, and a Teddy Kennedy commemorative paperweight, I’m not so sure that they’re a Palin supporter.

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  44. XbrianX
    November 7, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Ok, I just have to add this one as well. The grammatical errors are worse than here AND it’s for Obama. What the hell is a prise or a suncather? Is that like a catheter? And if so, I’m scared.
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=32790691

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  45. Frankenkitty
    November 7, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    And here I thought “Going Rouge” was for code for no underwear. I’m retired, baby!

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  46. rotnblue
    November 7, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    #43: HAH!!! LMAO!!! HILARIOUS

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  47. Sunny Lea
    November 7, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    I may have to stop reading this site. For 5 whole seconds, I actually thought it would be awesomely hilarious to *buy this thing*.

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  48. ihatecowls
    November 7, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  49. syd_bristow
    November 7, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    helen killer you are hilarious with your commentary

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  50. thehaps
    November 7, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    I weirdly think this actually might be tongue-in-cheek on the part of the seller. Err… tounge in cheek? Whatever. I’m confused by it, since the listing is unclear. A newscaster originally misread her book title as ‘going rouge’ and that *is* now a common enough joke.

    My biggest beef with this thing is that it is in the BOOKS AND ZINES top category, and tagged with “comic” … another clue the seller might be joking, but is also a tagging jerk.

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  51. Auto
    November 7, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    Before this popped up here I actually convoed this guy to politely correct him on his spelling. He said, “I know the spelling is not the same as the real book name as I am not sure if I can use the correct spelling. What do you think?” I said he could use the correct spelling and he said, “…have done work for the last five US Presidents all the retiring senators since 1984, LPGA trophy’s so I dont want to take any chances.If Sarah had become President I would have done her inauguration…

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  52. Auto
    November 7, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    I’m not sure if he is telling the truth but I’m not convinced it was intentional. Also I wasn’t aware Sarah Palin was running for President, I thought it was Vice President… MY BAD. I’m also not sure why he asked what I thought when he clearly had his mind made up that it was awesome as is already…

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  53. Auto
    November 7, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Whoops, first comment got cut off. It ended with, “If Sarah had become President I would have done her inauguration gift.”

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  54. carecaribou
    November 8, 2009 at 12:35 am

    The sad thing is, so many WoW players (and probably others) spell “rogue” as “rouge” habitually that the misspelling will go right by them.

    Heh. Nice one, though.

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  55. pauldodo
    November 8, 2009 at 1:37 am

    He. Made. Three. Of. Them….?

    There’s optimism for you.

    p
    x

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  56. Megan8607
    November 8, 2009 at 6:00 am

    So, does nobody else notice that her “Babies First Christmas” :

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=32692251

    (which is suppossed to be a teddy bear)

    Is the same exact shape as her “Ireland” ornament?:

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=vl_other_2&listing_id=32560631

    So, is it a Teddy Bear, or a country?

    You decide.

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  57. itch
    November 8, 2009 at 6:30 am

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! good call thehaps…his tagging bugged me as well. among other things.:)

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  58. rudegrl
    November 8, 2009 at 8:52 am

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  59. imamazed2
    November 8, 2009 at 10:28 am

    #21 Lexiii : It would go nicely in a gift basket with this…
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=34029056&ref=cat1_gallery_5

    That puppet is just plain bad..who wants a Sarah Palin finger puppet…its wrong, you would have to stick your finger up her ass…….

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  60. Megan8607
    November 8, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Uh oh, It’s been pulled!

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  61. worldfamousfudgy
    November 8, 2009 at 11:46 am

    And I quote:
    “Trere is chatter about the spelling This the one I chose for fun.”

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  62. butterwort
    November 8, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    I am so not buying the ‘I meant to do that’ added to the description.

    “This isn’t an item I spent time developing” – and it shows!

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  63. NinjaGato
    November 8, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Nope Megan it’s still there

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  64. Thousandaire
    November 8, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    What do champagne glasses and party hats have to do with Christmas? Or Caribou Barbie?

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  65. The Blue Kraken
    November 8, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    you know.. for the spelling challenged Etsyians who list things… I wished they used fox fire. It shows all your errors when you type as you type it. Doesn’t help with grammar but at least if the words were all spelled right it wouldn’t be so easy to pick on you!!!

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  66. Stingray Charles
    November 9, 2009 at 8:00 am

    Who cares about spellin’? Only you left coast weenies, not us Joe Six Packs and soccer moms in flyover country.

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  67. knitwithknives
    November 9, 2009 at 8:14 am

    Stingray- hahha, yes!

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  68. Ivriniel
    November 9, 2009 at 8:48 am

    The Blue Kraken – Safari has spell check too. Or they could type their description into a word processor, spell check it, and paste it into their browser window.

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  69. Stingray Charles
    November 9, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Actually, this would look great on our Christmas tree, next to our “Obama Yes We Kan 2008″ ornament.

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  70. Stingray Charles
    November 9, 2009 at 10:05 am

    #47: Yes, Frenkenkitty, you are correct. On a side note, I once suffered from a “Red sache” after going rogue in my 501′s.

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  71. vangoghbabe
    November 9, 2009 at 10:17 am

    “It makes me wonder when you do good work its so hard to get people to look at the item and then you do a silly piece and it gets attention. I hope you enjoyed it and if you didn’t I’m sorry.”GLASSGIFT

    You didn’t do good work, it did get attention. And I’m not sure if I accept your apology.

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  72. PokerFace
    November 9, 2009 at 1:16 pm
  73. Mominator
    November 10, 2009 at 6:44 am

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  74. Tom
    November 11, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Now I love that the seller has gotten defensive: “There are two books being released the same day. Check the book by the Nation magazine it is spelled Rouge, Sarah’s book is spelled Rouge”

    Still doesn’t quite seem to get it…

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  75. Helen Killer
    November 11, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Thank you Tom. I updated the post to add his perfectly reasonable explanation.

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  76. itlives
    November 11, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    #24 has the best one. And it’s New and Improved.

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  77. marimoy
    November 12, 2009 at 8:19 am

    mwahaha…. idiot.

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  78. speedymarie
    November 12, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    I just sent this seller the following email, laying out the mistake in plain English. She can’t write it, but I assume she can read it. I’ll let you all know if I get a response.

    —————–
    I’m sorry to tell you, but Sarah’s book is not “Going Rouge,” it is “Going Rogue”. The image that you linked to in your listing is probably from this article. http://shelf-life.ew.com/2009/10/21/going-rouge-palin-basher-lookalike/

    Sarah Palin’s Book is called “Going Rogue: An American…

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  79. speedymarie
    November 12, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    …continued:

    Sarah Palin’s Book is called “Going Rogue: An American Life.” The book from the Nation is called “Going Rouge: An American Nightmare” – it is a collection of essays about Sarah Palin. It is mocking the fact that “rogue” is spelled similarly to “rouge,” meaning the blusher make up that you put on your cheeks.

    I’m assuming that you support Sarah Palin, and don’t want to make Christmas ornaments that mock her and imply that she is nothing but a pretty doll.

    Good…

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  80. speedymarie
    November 14, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    He apparently offers both spellings. He told me that 4 people bought this thing – and money talks, so he makes them. He’s “not into politics” though.

    I still don’t think he gets it.

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  81. Kludge
    December 4, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    I used to play a rouge in Everquest but the gay mafia kept kicking my ass.

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  82. Thistle
    December 5, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    i’m thankful he cleared everything up!

    if she goes bald, she can do “going rogaine”

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  83. buffoon
    December 5, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    This is getting all a little too post-post-post-modern, life immitating art immitating life immitating art for me…

    I mean, did this lady deliberately spell it “Rogue” to copy the book by The Nation people, or did she genuinely misspell “Rogue”, and then try to get out of it when she discovered the parody book? Because if she did it deliberately, copying the title of the book by The Nation, not funny. If it was an accident and then she tried to make it look deliberate= VERY funny.

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  84. buffoon
    December 5, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Oops- now I’m all confused lol- I meant to say did she deliberately spell it “rouge”???

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  85. HermesGoddess
    December 5, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Meta.

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  86. sudabaki
    December 5, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    My IQ just dropped several points.

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  87. Patty
    December 5, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    My head hurts now.

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  88. bitchinstitch
    December 5, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    Oh yeah? Well, you guys are all just a mean old bunch of “knowall’s” anyway.

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=35295664

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  89. sheltiepitbullfun
    December 5, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    This would go well with the Obama Chia Pet:
    http://www.americanchia.com/flare/next

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  90. WhimsyMistress
    December 5, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    I can’t decide which book title is more intriguing for a female politician:
    “Going Rogue” (oh! I get it! She’s a maverick! Americans love mavericks!),
    “Going Rouge” (Oh! I get it! She’s making fun of the whole Lipstick on a Pig thing from the campaign!), or
    “Going Rough” (Oh! I get it! She’s… wait, what? Oh, ew…..)

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  91. McChicken
    December 5, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Going Rough…maybe a sequel to “Who’s nailyin’ Palin”?

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  92. Recovering Crack Baby
    December 5, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  93. Saraf
    December 5, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    #90 You beat me to it – he made an ormament just for Helen! Nice of him to make sure the listing was complete with horribly out of focus photos…

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  94. Recovering Crack Baby
    December 6, 2009 at 1:49 am

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  95. Recovering Crack Baby
    December 6, 2009 at 7:46 am

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  96. Bridget
    December 6, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    A great amount of sales. She has a total history of 19 items. Okay, which Regretsy user is collecting items for their misspelled Sarah Palin merchandise tree?!

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  97. hazzardgal
    December 6, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Re #82- The “Rogue” spelling version (or, is the “Rouge” one the rogue spelling version??) is only a “limed edition of 99″ though, so I’ll have to make sure to snatch mine before they all sell out.

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  98. enamy
    December 7, 2009 at 7:06 am

    how many times can someone misspell the same word? i’m in awe.

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  99. CrazyLady008
    January 7, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    Impressive business sense: “Who needs quality control? If I screw it up, I will rationalize my error, criticize those who clearly see my error for what it is, and claim to have meant to err all along.” Clearly a Republican.

    #101: I love your name!

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  100. CaptainSarcastic
    April 10, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    I wonder if her spelling would have been worse or better without the effects of Fox “News”…

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  101. Meanie
    May 24, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    She has pic of the book up now and it was spelled “ROUGE”

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  102. angel drawers
    October 5, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    #104, that’s a pic of Palin’s book “Going Rogue, An American Life” next to a pic of the book “Going Rogue: Sarah Palin, An American Nightmare”.

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  103. angel drawers
    October 5, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Oops, the second title should be “Going Rouge: Sarah Palin, An American Nightmare”. This is getting confusing.

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